Middle School Rule Question

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Can middle school DD play in out of state tournament with her select team during school ball practice before school team's first game? What's the rule? Thanks

 

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If it is an OHSAA sanctioned program - NO. If it is a club team - you can do whatever you want.

 

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indoor tournament? i don't think they count

 

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I didn't think they were a "rostered player" until they have played in a real or scrimmage game for the school. I am not 100% sure of this though. I always ask JoeA as my OHSAA rule consultant.

 

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Trust me. Once players report for official practice be it pitchers or catcher (usually last wk of Feb) or the rest of the squad (first part of March) in an OHSAA program - you ARE done with travel ball. As I stated before - club teams are not subjected to this rule.

 

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Indoor Tournaments are exempt as indoor softball is specifically not considered a sport by OSHAA

 

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Indoor Tournaments are exempt as indoor softball is specifically not considered a sport by OSHAA

I'm curious in the OHSAA Bylaws, where the above statement can be found?

OHSAA does not recognize indoor softball as a sport, but it is still considered non-interscholastic play, and that is coverd by OHSAA. You risk your elgibility, if you are on a OHSAA recognized team, and have started practice, then decide to play on your travel team.

 

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I'd have to look to be sure, but I don't think the middle school rule is any different than the high school rule. The high school rule is that is that they can do whatever with non-interscholastic teams up until they are a member of their school team. They become a member of the school team once they play in a game or scrimmage.

 

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Here is what makes the OHSAA Bylaws so confusing, and it could be easily cleared up if they wanted to. ?There are areas that conflict with one another, and really leave you guessing. ?I'm still trying to put the pieces together to prove my point, but here is what I have so far.....

1. ?In the first section you see that the OHSAA recognizes March 31st as when the season begins. ?One would think that this would be the cut off date for non-interscholastic participation.

Because they state in 4.4.1..That a member of an interscholastic fast pitch softball squad sponsored by the Board of Education shall not participate in a non-interscholastic program (tryouts, practice or contest) as an individual or as a member of a team in the sport of fast pitch softball during the school?s season. ?School season begins March 31st. ?But wait.....

2. ?In the second section, they state that a member of an interscholastic fast pitch softball squad is....(any student who has played in a scrimmage, preview or regular season/tournament game as a substitute or starter) sponsored by the Board of Education. ?

So now the date can fluctuate from one team to the next, because of when we start our scrimmages. ?Some players may fall into this as early as March 17th, if their team gets a scrimmage in, or if a team has no scrimmages, their players would not be recognized as a interscholastic member till they play their first game, which could be the first week in April.

3. Your allowed to participate on a non-interscholastic slow pitch team during your HS season

4. ?And ?4.7 states that participation in indoor fast pitch softball is not a violation of OHSAA non-interscholastic
team Bylaw 10-3-4 for student-athletes. THIS MAY BE THE MOST CONTRADICTING STATEMENT OF THEM ALL!!!

What an absolute Debacle and a Travesty!!!? :-? >
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2008 OHSAA Softball Calendar

Feb. 25 First Day of Coaching Pitchers and Catchers Only
Mar. 10 ?First Day of Coaching
[highlight]Mar. 31 Season Begins [/highlight]
May 4 Sectional Tournament Draw Date
May 5 Non-Interscholastic Competition No Longer Permitted
May 5 - May 17 Sectional Tournament
May 19 - May 24 District Tournament
May 30 - May 31 Regional Tournament
June 5 - June 7 State Tournament
June 14 Season Ends
Aug. 4 - Sept. 1 Coaches' No Contact ?

SOFTBALL-FAST PITCH 2007-08
4) Non-Interscholastic Participation
4.1) A member of an interscholastic fast pitch softball squad ([highlight]any student who has played in a scrimmage, preview or regular season/tournament game as a substitute or
starter)[/highlight] sponsored by the Board of Education shall not participate in a non-interscholastic program (tryouts, practice or contest) as an individual or as a member of a team in the sport of fast pitch softball during the [highlight]school?s season[/highlight] (Bylaw 10-3-1).

10-3-1 [highlight]A member of an interscholastic squad [/highlight]sponsored by the Board of Education or other governing board shall not participate in a contest, tryouts or any type of training or practices on a non-interscholastic squad or as an individual in a team sport (See Bylaw 10-3-4), in the same sport [highlight]during the school?s interscholastic sports season.[/highlight]

4.4) A girl playing on a school fast pitch softball team MAY participate on a non-interscholastic
slow pitch softball team at the same time with the permission of the
school coach. This is not a violation since the OHSAA only recognizes fast pitch
softball as a sport.

4.7) Participation in indoor fast pitch softball is not a violation of OHSAA non-interscholastic
team Bylaw 10-3-4 for student-athletes.
4.8) In accordance with Bylaw 10-3-6, interscholastic fast pitch softball coaches are
prohibited from coaching their own interscholastic squad members in indoor fast
pitch softball except for 10 days from June 1?July 31.