On Base Percentage

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If you get on base because of an error does that count towards your OBP?

For instance. You bat 3 times and get on all 3 times due to an error. Is your OBP 1.000?

 

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Nope

 

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X2!

 

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Here you go...
On-base percentage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ahhhh....the power of the internet.

 

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Many schools have no idea what an ROE is. We track them because most college coaches ask, even though they don't count toward OBP. It is also a dead give away if a kid is hitting 600 plus and they don't show ROE in the books that the BA is bogus. Heck most high schools give a Stolen base for everything and have no idea that a play has to be made without an error. Ask what DI means and they look at you with a blank stare! Runner at first and third and they allow the runner to go to second without a play. That is not a SB, yet I would bet the high school record is bloated with those PLAYS. Print out ATEC and read the rules , that should be mandantory for anyone keeping stats. Atec fastpitch scoring - free eBooks download

 

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Many schools have no idea what an ROE is. We track them because most college coaches ask, even though they don't count toward OBP. It is also a dead give away if a kid is hitting 600 plus and they don't show ROE in the books that the BA is bogus.
Excellent point.

Heck most high schools give a Stolen base for everything and have no idea that a play has to be made without an error. ?? Ask what DI means and they look at you with a blank stare! Runner at first and third and they allow the runner to go to second without a play. That is not a SB, yet I would bet the high school record is bloated with those PLAYS. Print out ATEC and read the rules , that should be mandantory for anyone keeping stats. Atec fastpitch scoring - free eBooks download

A throw is not required in all instances - catchers can eat the ball if they don't have a play (i.e. an opportunity to get an out). For example, the catcher bobbles it (not a passed ball) or there isn't a fielder covering.

A big issue with stolen bases is crediting them when it should have been a passed ball or a wild pitch.

 

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.....who's mom or dad is keeping the scorebook...?

 

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SoCal Dad. Not all sactions are the same Read Diffensive Indifference. I agree with the PB WP. NFHS the play I stated is not a stolen base! So if a kid reports 70 plus in high school with the limited games we play in Ohio how is that possible? I had a college coach ask the same question. They are not stupid.

 

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Re: stolen bases, indifference isn't the biggest issue ... asides from the big one of crediting SB's on passed balls and wild pitches, I have seen them also credited on fielder's choices, sacrifices, taking an extra base on outfield throws to the plate, etc. The scary thing is that some of these scorekeepers have been doing it so long the wrong way, that they won't even listen to someone trying to help them to do it correctly. One I will always remember was the parent who gave the players RBI's when runners scored on wild pitches. She gave a player 2 RBI's when she struck out after getting up to bat with the bases loaded because 2 runners scored before the strike out on passed balls/wild pitches, and nearly bit my head out when I politely told her that wasn't right.

 

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SoCal Dad. Not all sactions are the same Read Diffensive Indifference. I agree with the PB WP. NFHS the play I stated is not a stolen base! So if a kid reports 70 plus in high school with the limited games we play in Ohio how is that possible? I had a college coach ask the same question. They are not stupid.

I only replied because your statement of a 'play' having to be made appeared to be in all instances and, if so, is inaccurate. Defensive Indifference is a form of Fielder's Choice when the lack of a play on the advance of the runner is due to it being perceived as having no bearing on the outcome of the game (e.g. score is lopsided or winning run is on third).

The scoring guidelines in the NFHS and ASA rule books are very sketchy and incomplete. In fact, there is no mention of DI in the 2011 NFHS rules that I have. I use a combination of ATEC and NCAA to fill in the gaps.

For grins, I looked up the SB leaders in CA as reported to MaxPreps. The top 2 are from the same HS with 73 and 62 in 26 games. There were a few other schools with multiple players in the top 50.

 

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Same here. Sad that everyone seems to be doing something different. Using IScore helps. The cheaters show up don't they. Anyone wants to look up OHSAA stolen bases and you see the same trends. You see it in the paper with batting averages. Same schools have 3 kids all batting over 600 but can't win 1/2 the games they play! You play that same team and same kids don't get a hit!

 

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Shout out to iSCORE! (big fan). but all it gives you is a button for DI or SB or FC. scorer still has to make the 'between the ears' decision which button to press

 

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For grins, I looked up the SB leaders in CA as reported to MaxPreps. The top 2 are from the same HS with 73 and 62 in 26 games. There were a few other schools with multiple players in the top 50.

My friend was coaching a 23U team this summer. He was facing a team with quite a few college players and one of the players was from the colleges track team. The girl got on first and the coach walked over to the dugout and said to my frind " she is stealing on the next 2 pitches and there is nothing you can do about it" he then smiled and said " I know I seem like an A-hole for telling you this but I just get a kick out of watching her run, she is amazing, and does not even play softball in college, she is a sprinter".

And she then stole second and third. And eventually scored 2 times that game. So there are players that fast out there. But I find averaging 3 stolen bases a game to be a bit of a stretch. Possible yes but probably no. OBS% would need to be over .500 and with no one in front of her to block her stealing a base. The numbers would seem to suggest there is some serious padding going on.

 

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My friend was coaching a 23U team this summer. He was facing a team with quite a few college players and one of the players was from the colleges track team. The girl got on first and the coach walked over to the dugout and said to my frind " she is stealing on the next 2 pitches and there is nothing you can do about it" he then smiled and said " I know I seem like an A-hole for telling you this but I just get a kick out of watching her run, she is amazing, and does not even play softball in college, she is a sprinter".

Was his name Billy Jack? Billy Jack in action - YouTube

We got a new HS coach 2 years ago and he talked about getting a sprinter off the track team, but it's never happened (like a lot of the things he's said). Sprinters have raw speed, but they need experience in order to react to situations quickly. If they have to wait for a coach to tell them what to do, it's too late.