Opinions on camps?

OHsoftball

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I know everyone has different opinions on this, but I would like to know how the majority feels. Obviously, some of us can't afford to send our kids to every single camp they are interested in. How important is it to attend camps to be recruited?
 
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IMO its really important , maybe you don't have to attend twice a year camps for 5-6 years in a row at the same college but if your DD knows a school is on her list she needs to attend 2-3 camps during her prime recruitment years . I'm telling you as fact , schools of every size , even mine at the NAIA level get LARGE amounts of email and inquires about being part of the team , There are very few spots for players in each graduating class , if you think school A is on your " possible" list you better attend a camp or two . Unless there is some other way you know for sure your daughter is forming a relationship with the staff .
 

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We do between 3-5 a year feeling schools out and my DD will be visiting a couple for the 2nd time this fall and winter. We have been to 7 in the past 2.5 years and some are weak while others are solid. If your DD has potential, I would recommend Kent st, Queen of Diamonds and Tennessee Tech. Look for a few that have multiple schools attending. Make those connections!!!
 

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Is there a good website(s) that has Ohio area camps listed somewhere?
 

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Don't waste your money on what coaches call Money Mills. Anytime they tell you 50 colleges will be there don't waste your time or money. The coaches will be working skills areas. Unless your DD impresses that coach during that drill you can expect that all the coaches will ever see is a spreadsheet with the number and name of your DD on the list. Of course top performers will be looked at more closely, but that is 1%-3% of the athletes that attend. Every DI, DII, NAIA coach I have had the chance to meet says the following. DO NOT waste your money on the meat markets. DO NOT pay anyone to make a video, make a profile, or try to get you recruited. They will ask for thousands to do what you can yourself. You can use your iPhone to make a video. You can email every coach at schools you wish to attend. You can get yourself seen by those coaches by attending their Prospect camps. Make multiple videos 10-30s long. Create a free profile on one of many available sites. Just remember they will contact you to sell something when you sign up. Post your video to YouTube and include the links when you email the coaches on your list. It takes work, but you can market your DD as well as anyone else can. It does take effort. I have done it several times now. I have walked the walk. Each child will be different even if it is the same sport.
 

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In my experience, if you don't have a good relationship with the coaches before you go to the camp then you will not get in the group that the coaches will focus on. There is the one group that coaches put all the invitees and kids from the good orgs on. All other groups are there to fund raise. Yes, you can get noticed if you are not in that "A" group by showing out against group "A" in a scrimmage or live hitting etc., but if you don't you are just donating your money. Also, you don't want to go to a camp with out knowing what the college team needs are for your class. Hopefully your travel ball coach will have a relationship with the college coach and can tell you their team needs.

As a young girl ages 10-14, you can go to camps all you want to get better and don't have to worry about having a relationship with the coach or team needs. But once you get to recruiting age, you will want to spend your money wisely.
 

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I would say have them start narrowing down there choices by there sophomore year in hs.Don't believe its all about the org your with that will get you recruited.I saw several girls w bigger named orgs that couldn't make some of the local travel teams we've played for .and I saw girls that were just wearing tournament shirts the had way more potential than the ones earlier mentioned and yes they were in the same group,coach's know talent when they see it.Go to the Camps were she wants to go ,they will get to know her if she shows potential and see her progress.If they don't show interest or contact you other than invites to camps move on.
 

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Understand there are Recruiting Camps and there are Skills Camps. Both are designed to make money to support the college softball team. Skills Camps are exactly as they sounds: they are looking to provide additional instruction to players. Recruiting Camps are used to evaluate candidates against anticipated future needs. Coaches will watch players and prospects, but know what kind of camp you are attending. Frequent communication with coaches is required and you need to ask if you are a candidate. If the answer is "yes", then ask have to proceed/next steps. If "no", you can ask for feedback and move on.
 

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Lets make a deal...

Put as much effort into getting your dd into a great academic situation, into an academic program that she really loves as you are trying to get her to play softball.

Just a suggestion for some life balance here.
 

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Lets make a deal...

Put as much effort into getting your dd into a great academic situation, into an academic program that she really loves as you are trying to get her to play softball.

Just a suggestion for some life balance here.
Defiantly a lot less options without academics ,softball may be something to do while your there.
 

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There can be value in going to a camp that has coaches from a variety of college programs including DI, DII, DIII, and NAIA that combines instruction with showcasing your skills. Everyone who has posted here has valid points. However, where else can your kids get instruction, information, and feedback from a college coach that can help them improve their skills if they listen?

Realize that if you go to a college camp without other college coaches there, you are only being seen by that one staff. If your only reason for going is to be seen by that one coaching staff then you should find out if they are still looking for kids in your class and positions. College coaches do find kids that way on occasion but it is a very small number. You should go to that camp with the idea that it is a learning experience. Get feedback on how to get better and learn more about that school and its program. When you are there you get to interact with coaches and players and find out would you like being at that school if you are talented enough to play there. It also gives you an opportunity to compare different types and sizes of schools to find what might be a good fit for you. Maybe DD goes to a camp and she finds out she doesn't like the size of school, kids on the team, or the coaches. There is value in learning that. There is also value in learning the reality of the competition you are dealing with in getting to play at the college level. If you are not one of the top 5 kids at that camp, they probably won't be interested in you. Reality should set in. Look at another level or another school. Cross the school off your list and keep looking for something that might be a good fit.

With the DI recruiting rules changing, trends in how those coaches recruit will change. They won't go to outside camps (non-institutional) to observe talent as much unless they are working the camp. Di coaches can only work specific time frames during recruiting periods. Unless you are attending a national level camp with national level talent, the only coaches you can expect to see at your camp are the ones working. It is still a good way to get seen. At least when you are working with a coach at a camp you know they are looking at you. When you are at a tournament, you have no idea who they are looking at when they are watching your field.

Only 1to 3% of the kids who play the game have the opportunity to play in college. Chances are 1 to 3% of the kids who go to a showcase camp will have that opportunity.

I agree with previous posts. My suggestion is go to camps where there is a variety of coaches there where you can get exposed to coaches from all levels or go to a school you have great interest in but try to find out ahead of time if they are still looking for athletes in your class or position.
 

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One other point. College coaches have 2 approaches to recruiting when they go to tournaments or hosting or working camps. One approach is they want to see more of kids they have already seen and are not sold on yet to decide whether they want to offer them a spot or scholarship on their team. Or second, they are window shopping looking for kids to add to their list to keep an eye on that might meet their needs. When they are window shopping, a kid can catch their eye by being a presence on the field, by being vocal, hustling, diving, being passionate, aggressive, and clutch. Being at a camp is one place coaches find kids when they are window shopping and sometimes they find a steal!
 
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Whether you are sending your daughter to a camp with coaches from multiple schools or if you are sending her to a camp with coaches from one staff, it is vital that your daughter wants to be there and wants to listen/learn.

I am still shocked by the number of players I see at camps that I work that show no interest in being there. There is probably no worse thing you can do for your daughter's "marketability" than to have her show up at a camp and show no enthusiasm for that program/school, the coaches in attendance or the sport in general.

If your daughter isn't 100% bought in to attending a camp, save your money!
 

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Thank you Karen and Tony for your additions to this thread.Both of you made great points.Karen your comment about getting to know the current coach's are defiantly something the girls to look at when getting several offers.While I'm at camps I All ways watch the way coach's interact w potential players and there current ones as well.
 

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Whether you are sending your daughter to a camp with coaches from multiple schools or if you are sending her to a camp with coaches from one staff, it is vital that your daughter wants to be there and wants to listen/learn.

I am still shocked by the number of players I see at camps that I work that show no interest in being there. There is probably no worse thing you can do for your daughter's "marketability" than to have her show up at a camp and show no enthusiasm for that program/school, the coaches in attendance or the sport in general.

If your daughter isn't 100% bought in to attending a camp, save your money!

Probably the best advice in this entire thread. Well said!!!
 

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Tony is right on! Kids have to want to be there and want to get better.

When searching out camps travel coaches, parents, and kids should be realistic about the skill level the athlete has and the types of college programs they should be looking at. This will help define what types of camps they should be attending. If a kid is going into their junior year of HS and has never been a starter on either their HS varsity or travel team, chances are a DI program is not going to be offering them a scholarship. Look at smaller schools.
 

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IMO its really important , maybe you don't have to attend twice a year camps for 5-6 years in a row at the same college but if your DD knows a school is on her list she needs to attend 2-3 camps during her prime recruitment years . I'm telling you as fact , schools of every size , even mine at the NAIA level get LARGE amounts of email and inquires about being part of the team , There are very few spots for players in each graduating class , if you think school A is on your " possible" list you better attend a camp or two . Unless there is some other way you know for sure your daughter is forming a relationship with the staff .
Perfectly said... at first, 7th 8th grades maybe even 9th grade, lots of camps. By Freahman Soph. Year narrow down to say 4 most interested schools... also advise no winter camps that do not do games... those are money makers. Camps with games are where its at! Unless the school is already in offer process and really interested in dd then I'd go to the winter camp as well...
 

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Even if your daughter has the D1 skill set,I would have her consider smaller schools due to the time commitment required towards the team practices/travel at that level , consider her major and its required study time and commitment a priority.
 
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