Pitching and Pitchers Discussion Pitching stress? You want pitching stress?

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I watched Cat Ostermann and Monica Abbott look down at the ground and not the catch and I wondered why. What they are doing is looking at a spot where their front foot is going to land. I started doing that with my DD and she did lose speed at all. Since she never looked at the batter it never got in her head that it was no different from practice. Just a thought
 
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DD has pitched for awhile and it seems like I am always more nervous for her. Everything you talk about comes with the job for the first year or so. She will relax enough to trust her mechanics.
Just a thought though - does she think you are nervous for her when she steps on the mound? My DD would "sense" my anxiety for her - which threw her off a bit. Of course she is older now and I learned to "hide" my nervous stomach from her. All in due time it will come together. Been there!!:D
 
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Beats me, I'll ask her about it though. My wife says she doesn't know it she can watch her pitch, but i"ll bet she'll find herself on the bleachers, maybe with her hands over her eyes most of the time.
 
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Just like runners, you can't teach speed. You can teach, and learn, accuracy. It just takes some time.
 
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Thank guys. You don't know how much this helps. (Me mostly) I will pass on to dd what I can. I'll see what works. I don't want her to slow down her fastball, just trust her motion.
 
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Philbob is your DD going to get to pitch for the Waves this year,or is she not that far along in her training.Just curious,good luck to her this season.
Pitching can be taxing,with a the time and energy and leasons,and so on.:)
 
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We're kind of leaving that open Steam. That was one reason I wanted her to play OGSO this year -- to give her experience as a pitcher. She made the Waves as a position player, and I was opening when she gets more consistent around the plate, hopefully later this year, she'll open some eyes with the Waves. I remember watching the pitchers on the speed gun at the Waves tryouts, and I wasn't too impressed with the mph, and I don't recall the coaches being too excited either.
 
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I'm trying to stay as objective as possible, so we started with a new pitching coach this month. She's softballcat12 on OFC, and is the coach of the Lasers 16U team. (Get ready for Dad Brag, I'm sorry, I can't help myself.) After her first session with my dd, she was pretty enthused about my dd's future and her potential. The kid is coachable and works hard, so we're thinking this might take her someplace. More than you wanted to hear, but I'm sorry.
 
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I have a opinion (suggestion). My DD is 12 and has been taking pitching since she was 8. Like you said it is in the mechanics. When we are at pitching for two hours, we do all the drills for at LEAST one hour. If we pitch for an hour we will do the drills for about 45 min. It's all muscle memory. All the drills are not about the speed so much; it's about getting the muscle to know which way to go. Now when we get to the actual pitching part of our practice, its 110% throw hard. Sometimes if I see her doing something wrong with the mecahnics, we'll go back to the drill that may pertain to that. If you are, do not rush to get to the actual pitching, take time on all th "micro" drills that consist of the pitching.
 
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Good Idea. We've got a drill routine that my dd follows everytime she pitches beginning with wrist snaps with the hand held out in front, then snaps into the glove, then 9 o'clocks, 12s, then a couple other drills using a 360 plus windmill, then full motion pitching from the rubber. So I figure a pitching workout for her is is half or 3/4 drills. We have been trying to lengthen the full motion pitching from the circle section now that it's getting warmer.
 
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Hi guys new to the board but not to coaching pitchers. Here is how I solve the initial problem - At the end of every practice I have my youngins throw 15 pitches as fast as they can.

1. They have fun and realize they don't have to throw strikes
2. They usually come close to throwing strikes
3. Its a good way to let them feel bad mechanics
4. It's a speed training tool

So when these kids get in these game situations they have already practiced some. Trust me you can sit and talk to a kid all day - but it isn't going to stop her from trying to make an impression at a game. You have to tackle the problem a different way. Let them practice at warp speed. See what comes out of it.
 
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Dee, I'll try this tonight and tell you what happens.

It may be a little messy - but when I was pitching I couldn't wait to get to that part of the workout. Plus ... sometimes muscle memory just kicks in when they are going fast and things just even out. You also can cue them with some things they are doing wrong - but don't make it the focus.
 
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OK, the thing that kicked this thread off for me, was that at the end of practice, when my dd was pitching live, she was trying to throw as hard as she could, which threw off her mechanics. So interested in seeing what happens when I tell her to throw it through the backstop.
 
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Oops I fibbed. We were going to do that, but ran out of time on Thursday. Since my dd's rec team has all rookie pitchers, I'd figure we'll start playing intersquad games to try and get some type of game experience. And my dd is starting, just starting mind you, to get in control of her motion while in the circle. So I feel better about her progress. I mean, she and the other pitchers are so to this, and all of them responded poretty well to game-type situations in practice today.
 
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philbob, We had a drill where we had a bucket of balls that included all sorts of different balls.........baseballs, softballs(11",12" and 14"), weighted balls (just a couple), golf wiffle balls, tennis balls, ping pong balls, dimple balls, etc. (I just raided my garage for anything I could find). I had her pitch a bucket of 30 balls or so from the rubber and put a water bottle on a bucket at home plate just to make it fun. Obviously some of the balls may not reach the target (ping pong balls for example), we just wanted those balls in a straight line towards home plate and on a good plane. The effect was immediate and often hilarious, I am sure you can imagine what happens when you throw a golf wiffle ball after you throw a weighted ball. Sometimes I would have her throw the same ball twice to see if she could make the correction. We did this every practice (or close to it), I believe this helped her gain muscle memory very quickly because she had to focus on her mechanics to throw these different balls correctly. We had started with a pitching coach in the fall of 2007 but weren't able to practice much once the weather got too cold, we built an indoor cage in January and within a month I thought she was ready to tryout for a team. I really believe this drill helped speed up the process. She tried out for two teams (10u) and made them both, the team we chose already had an established pitcher, who she split time with. We had some bumps along the road, but all in all she pitched very well for a 1st yr pitcher, including a nice win at NSA nationals to help us finish in the top half of the tournament. But looking back, I think this drill helped her muscle memory quite a bit. Once they have consistent mechanics and they start seeing the results, it will naturally help their confidence, which hopefully helps them relax a little and just throw. Good Luck
 
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That's an interesting idea, bam. I believe I will try that. Thanks for the tip.
 
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Well, I'm baack. DD has pitched in 2 games so far, 10Ks and 21 BBs and only 2 HB in 5 IP.
I'm reciting Kat's advice like a mantra, lots of walks 1st year, big improvement 2nd year.
The other concerns are starting to work themselves out.
But I've noticed I'm a lot more critical of the home plate umpire than I used to be. (Sorry Bret, FPBlue, I feel guilty about it). Thankfully my wife is the same way, although she's a bit more demonstrative, so I can tell her and myself at the same time to calm down, the umpire doesn't have it in personally for our dd on the mound. (Although that girl who umped last night really seemed to be favoring the other side.) There, there, calm down.
Oh, what a fun trip this is going to be.
 
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First game DD pitched, she walked four/hit four/struck-out four. It was like a tri-fecta.
 
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Philbob
Relax it gets better next year. This is my DD's 2nd year and while watching her is still stressful she is finally coming along. She pitched her first no hitter tuesday:)
 

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