Softball Non-Interscholastic Date for High School ball

[DanMaz]

This is from the 2018 High School coaches guide. NOTE the non-interscholastic date below.

Practice May Begin on February 19, 2018
Friday/Saturday, January 12 - 13, 2018: OHSFSCA Clinic
Thursday, February 1, 2018: ONLINE Meeting Activated (4:00 p.m.)
First Day of Coaching: February 19, 2018
Wednesday, March 7, 2018: FINAL Day for Completion of Rules Meeting before LATE Fee
Regular Season Contests May Begin: March 24, 2018
Non-Interscholastic Date: April 16, 2018
Tournament Seed Meeting: April 29, 2018
Sectional Tournaments: May 5 – May 12, 2018
District Tournaments: May 14 – May 19, 2018
Regional Tournaments: May 24 – May 25, 2018
State Tournament: May 31 – June 2, 2018

***** Softball Non-Interscholastic Date *****
The OHSAA establishes a “non-interscholastic’ date for each sport that is 6 weeks from the first tournament date (April 16, 2018 for Softball). Though softball student-athletes are not permitted to play ANY non-interscholastic softball (travel, club, etc.) DURING THE SEASON OF PLAY, any player that violates this rule on or after the established ‘non-interscholastic date’ loses his/her eligibility for the OHSAA tournament at all levels. Please continue to remind your players of the non-interscholastic rule throughout the season.

seems like you can practice with your travel teams thru April 16th right???

 

[finfan365]

Once she participates in a scrimmage or competition with her scholastic team she is considered a member of that team and cannot participate with her non-scholastic team.

 

[DanMaz]

Found it! Thanks finfan....

Non-Interscholastic Competition A member of an interscholastic softball squad (grades 7-12) sponsored by the Board of Education cannot participate in a non-interscholastic Softball program (such as ‘club or ‘travel’), which includes tryouts, practice and contests as an individual OR a member of a team in the sport of softball anytime during the school team’s season. This is explained in OHSAA General Sport Regulation 7-1-3. A student-athlete becomes a member of the school team when she participates in a scrimmage, preview OR regular season our tournament game as a substitute OR as a starter. A member of an interscholastic softball team sponsored by the Board of Education MAY participate in non-interscholastic softball (such as ‘club’ or ‘travel’) PRIOR TO and AFTER the school season under the following conditions: - The number of interscholastic softball players from the same school on a non-interscholastic team is limited to FOUR on the roster of that non-interscholastic team. This number includes all players that played on the school team in the previous season from grades 9- 11*. - A player may continue to play with a non-interscholastic squad in a national qualifying tournament only in excess of the four player limit until the squad is eliminated but no later than Labor Day. - A player may play in non-interscholastic softball ONLY WHEN the student’s team has completed its season. *Graduating seniors are exempt from this particular 4 player limitation.

 

[Stedman00]

most HS coaches, try to say once tryouts occur, then no contact. It is not correct, but makes it easier on them.

 

[mamoneyoh]

I'm a little confused by the 4 player limit. Are only 4 girls from the same high school team allowed to play on the same travel team after the school softball season? What happens if there are more than 4?

 

[Stedman00]

my understanding may be off, but the problem is not having >4 players on same team after schoolball complete this year for example. The problem is that those same >4 girls were most likely on same travel ball team last fall and all winter practicing together. THAT'S the violation area.

 

[Heavy Hitter]

I'm a little confused by the 4 player limit. Are only 4 girls from the same high school team allowed to play on the same travel team after the school softball season? What happens if there are more than 4?

You can have more than 4 girls on the same time during the summer as long as a their is no coach from their school softball program. That any coach, volunteer, assistant or head.

 

[mamoneyoh]

If what I'm reading from DanMaz and Heavy Hitter is correct, it sounds like you can have >4 players on the same travel team after labor day, as long as it is not coached by anyone from the high school coaching staff.

 

[VE_05]

You can have more than 4 girls on the same time during the summer as long as a their is no coach from their school softball program. That any coach, volunteer, assistant or head.

This is not correct. They changed the rule this year, you can coach school ball and travel ball. If you stay under the 4 girl rule then you can start practicing-playing as soon as school ball season is complete. If you have more then 4 then you can't practice-play until memorial day weekend and end by the end of july.

 

[Heavy Hitter]

Here is the new rule for 2018 VE_05 was talking about


Sport Regulation 7.5 – Coaching Out of Season

This is a significant change AND all coaches were provided this information in late July – a change that will now permit all school coaches to coach non-school (fall ball, travel softball, etc.) outside the season with players from your school teams on it. You read that correctly – school coaches will now have permission to coach players from their own school on non-school teams outside the season of play and not just during June and July.

BUT, hold on….
Before you start thinking you can coach and have voluntary practice outside the season read further: First, there are 3 regulations that have not changed:

1. The No-Contact Period. It still exists and that STILL means that during those 2 periods of time you will NOT be permitted to coach. Good…we have established that. Now read on.

2. The regulations that limit any non-school team to only 4 players that played for the same school team still exists. That has not changed and there is no plan TO change it. And for the record, whether a school coach or a non-school coach is coaching a nonschool team, the “50% rule” applies and there are no plans to change it.

3. There can be no rotating players from your school teams from one non-school game to another. In other words, your permission to coach a team that consists of 4 players from your school does NOT give you the permission to use 4 different players in each and every game you play in. This is true whether you are coaching the non-school team or not, rotating players to ‘get around’ the 4 player limit is not permitted. You simply cannot have 5 or more on a non-school roster and only play 4 in each game.

So…. take the above and it is now easier to understand; the change in this regulation DOES now permit school coaches this opportunity, but other regulations remain unchanged that will not permit any coaching of any kind during the No-Contact Period AND will never permit you to coach a team that has more than 4 individuals from your school team on it (except during June and July). Incidentally, we ‘opened this up’ a year ago at the Middle School level with few repercussions. And, keep in mind – this permission to coach players is in ‘competitions’, it does not permit you to practice with them. The Individual Instruction regulation permits that.

http://www.ohsaa.org/Portals/0/Sports/Softball/sbmanual.pdf