I read that UGA just dropped 3 players, and probably will drop another 2-3 from their scholarship offers. Tough when a 2015 has stopped their recruiting because a top program offered them early. I know this happens at all levels - every year. I am happy that this is being reported. Maybe others will come forward. Hopefully this will open some players and parents eyes. Until you sign a NLI do not mark yourself as "committed".
Softball verbals don't matter to SEC Schools
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Ferrigno20
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It cracks me up when I here D1 offers to girls in 8th grade. They think that offer will still be on the table in 4 years.
coachjwb
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Seems like I heard or read somewhere here that 80% of the time they still are on the table in 4 years ... even if so, 20% should be enough to make a potential recruit and her family nervous ... I would guess the percentage is a lot worse when there's a change in the coaching staff ...
I have a feeling that my .02 on this subject probably won't be well received in some present company, but...for what some people pay to chase some faraway, "potential" scholarship money, you might just be better off paying for the college of your choice, and save yourselves a lot of hassle.
Unless you're just dead set on splitting the atom at MIT, or want to work on your surfing at Pepperdine...there are plenty of good schools closer to home.
Unless you're just dead set on splitting the atom at MIT, or want to work on your surfing at Pepperdine...there are plenty of good schools closer to home.
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I see 27 thumbs down in your very near future.
HC stays the same - asst coaches changed. Sad. Yea - one 2016 the other two 2015's.
Again - just another reason to keep the term "committed" off your profile sheets.
Not the case. Sounds like the new asst coaches had a group of recruits from their old schools that they wanted. At least 2 of the recruits were asked in the summer to stay committed while the new coaches got their feet wet.
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Is this only sec schools, somehow I think this may apply to all the bigger conferences.. Granted the sec is the best conference by far for softball but it seems you picked the conference for some reason or maybe it was just Georgia and not a conference thing.
No I didn't pick anything - just had the link sent to me. It does happen in all conferences and at all levels. I had a player have this happen to her from a D2 school. This topic was just a follow up to a thread a while ago about verbal's.
Its dog eat dog in the recruiting business. No loyalty or conscience. Save your money and pay for it yourself.
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Agree with you 100 percent, it happens all the times at all major schools and to be honest all major sports. Not sure how they can police this or stop this, but one can only imagine the pain these poor kids feel
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I disagree with the assertion that this happens all the time in Division I college softball ... In fact it is uncommon.
Please review the number of verbal commits dropped by Alabama, Oklahoma, Michigan, and Washington over the last five years (elite programs with little to no changes in staff). The number is very, very low. Michigan hasn't dropped a verbal in more than a decade (or longer).
Drops in verbals are almost always due to a change in coaching staff or violation of the agreed upon stipulations (maintaining certain gpa, staying out of legal trouble, commitment to strength and conditioning, etc.).
Let me reiterate - coaches dropping verbals is not the norm by any stretch of the imagination. Will this change? Maybe. But currently I would guess that it is not even 5-7% of all verbals get dropped by coaches.
In fact, many dropped verbals come from the player backing out after a coaching change. Note - this is not frowned upon or held against the player.
Please review the number of verbal commits dropped by Alabama, Oklahoma, Michigan, and Washington over the last five years (elite programs with little to no changes in staff). The number is very, very low. Michigan hasn't dropped a verbal in more than a decade (or longer).
Drops in verbals are almost always due to a change in coaching staff or violation of the agreed upon stipulations (maintaining certain gpa, staying out of legal trouble, commitment to strength and conditioning, etc.).
Let me reiterate - coaches dropping verbals is not the norm by any stretch of the imagination. Will this change? Maybe. But currently I would guess that it is not even 5-7% of all verbals get dropped by coaches.
In fact, many dropped verbals come from the player backing out after a coaching change. Note - this is not frowned upon or held against the player.
I am not sure that anyone said that verbals are dropped all the time. I agree it is very uncommon. But I will contend that a coaching change at a school where a verbal was offered does not make it ok to drop a player. Just my personal opinion.
What I will say is that like many NCAA regulations this NLI timing is outdated. If a coach is going to verbal a player at an early age the player should also have to option to sign a NLI earlier as well. Maybe not as an 8th grader - but earlier than it is now.
What I will say is that like many NCAA regulations this NLI timing is outdated. If a coach is going to verbal a player at an early age the player should also have to option to sign a NLI earlier as well. Maybe not as an 8th grader - but earlier than it is now.
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Not a bad idea.
Was referencing one of the previous posters who said it happens all the time.
I can say that the current recruiting in softball is crazy for a number of reasons. But the drops of verbals is so uncommon it is one of the least of the concerns.
Was referencing one of the previous posters who said it happens all the time.
I can say that the current recruiting in softball is crazy for a number of reasons. But the drops of verbals is so uncommon it is one of the least of the concerns.
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A verbal agreement is like a gentleman's agreement.....nothing more. Teams that honor their verbal agreements maintain a good standing in the minds of recruits. Teams that churn their verbal agreements will ultimately obtain a bad reputation and it will eventually hurt them in the recruiting process. In other words, if UGA continues to break verbals and a potential recruit has to decide between UGA and Florida, more often than not the recruit would choose Florida. The majority of college coaches maintain their verbal commitments. There are also instances where a coach gets fired or resigns and the AD of that school does not make the new coach honor any verbal commitments made. Sometimes a verballed athelete will follow the coach to a different school. I also believe that the athletes break their verbal commitments more often than the coaches breaking their verbal commitment to the athlete. My dd is verbally committed to play for a particular school and will honor her verbal. The school where she has verballed has an outstanding record for honoring their verbal commitments.
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Sounds a lot like travel ball in general.
Again - totally agree.....except when it happens to a player you know. And then you see them get crushed. And then they realize their chance of playing at a like level school is all but gone because of the timing.
But I do agree there are bigger fish to fry out there in the NCAA world!!
