Hitting and Hitters Discussion Take the first pitch, or swing away?

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At our game last night baserunners we few and far between. We had one girl who was 2 for 2 everyone else was just not hitting. 3rd time around our leadoff batter was able to draw a walk, with the girl who was 2 for 2 coming up. We gave her the take pitch sign, and had the girl on first stealing to try to get into scoring position. Eveything worked out, basehit... runscored...
 
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Does a Rise Ball Really Rise?
How a Rise Ball Works
by Gerald Warner, Softball Pitching Instructor

There has long been differing opinions between fastpitch softball players vs. die-hard students of physics and aerodynamics as to whether a properly thrown rise ball can overcome the gravitational force trying to pull it toward the ground, enough to really RISE.

As we have mentioned in other articles on this website, the majority of young pitchers who have been told or ?think? they can throw a rise ball do NOT:
?Release the ball with correct backspin (top-to-bottom as seen by the catcher)
?Impart fast enough spin speed (at least 23 to 25 revolutions per second)
?Pitch the ball fast enough (mid-50?s at a minimum)
?so MOST pitchers are not yet able to throw a truly effective rise ball.

More information of some of the correct techniques for throwing a rise ball can be found on this website at:
Rise Ball Secrets

Although most of us pitching instructors, pitchers, hitters, coaches, and parents feel that we have seen rise balls ?hop? over the top of a bat, there is no scientific evidence to prove that a softball can be thrown with sufficient speed and backspin to make an upward arc in its trajectory. Many of us have flicked a table tennis ball to make it dramatically curve, drop, and even rise. However, it has been estimated that a 6.8 ounce softball would have to be thrown at over 90 mph with a spin speed in excess of 35 revolutions per second in order to give the ball even a minor upward arc. So?

A ?RISE BALL?, EVEN WHEN THROWN CORRECTLY, DOES NOT RISE?
it simply falls slower than a similar speed fastball that doesn?t have backspin and therefore has a more level plane on its path to the plate.

However, because the ball doesn?t have the same gravitational drop as most batters expect, even major league baseball players have been unable to make contact with a well thrown rise ball from a female pitcher.

Does a Rise Ball Really Rise? ? page 2

THE MAGNUS EFFECT - Although there are many factors that contribute to the success of any ?breaking? pitch, the easiest for most of us to understand is that the spinning seams on the ball ?dig into? the air, causing it to move up, down, or sideways more than a ball that is thrown without the same spin. The principle known as the Magnus Effect (or Magnus Force) lowers the air pressure on one side of a spinning softball, creating low pressure (essentially a slight vacuum), and causing the ball to either move in a specific direction or, in the case of a rise ball, remain in the air for a longer distance and therefore not dropping as much in the trip from the pitcher?s hand to the batter.

If you have questions or need more information
Call Pitching Instructor Gerald Warner

Enough is enough....
 
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Thanks Howard: Even when you have pictures in time frame analysis as evidence, some still want to argue this one. I have caught Bill Hillhouse and he just has a better rise ball than most. When you are used to catching a ball that drops off at the end, you move your glove down and the ball will hit the top of your glove. As a former catcher, drop balls and riseballs , make catching in softball tougher than baseball. .
 
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Please! Make Howard's post a "sticky" in hopes of preventing this dead horse from thrashing itself back to life every year.
 
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Sammy , would it do any good. Look how many times the same posts keep popping up, If they used the search key function , we wouldn't get 1/2 the bat posts! Besides you would take the fun out of it and I wouldn't get to read the posts of you defending yourself! Ringer started all of this and you know how he likes to stir up the pot.
 
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You got a point there SB... Just to keep it fun, I think we should make an award - maybe call it the "Golden Ladle Award". for the most prolific pot stirer. Now that would generate some posting traffic!

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I think Ringer might run away with it, but we have two new members that have done a good job of giving him a run for his money lately!
 

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