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What should a team charge for new players coming in to help bring the team up to a full roster?
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Same as everyone minus tournaments you already did. Say you charge $600 and you do 10 tournaments and it averages out to $35 a girl subtract what you already did 1 tourney $35 - 2 tournemants $70 etc.
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Exactly. Our team refunds unused monies at the end of the year.
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That may cover the cost of some of the tournaments. What about the ones costing $450 - $500?
Also you are forgetting the cost of the insurance? Cost of uniforms? Equipment? Coaches clothing? First Aid Kit? Practice balls? Sanction fees? etc.... Now ASA wants to charge for coaches to be "trained". There are many misc. expenses I haven't mentioned. Maybe some of the organizations treasurers can post a number of misc. expenses that you would not even think about. (for ex. 12U generally play in more tournaments that lets say - 16 or 18U)
Once that is done, total the costs for a team - leave a little breathing room and divide by the number of girls on the team.
Also you are forgetting the cost of the insurance? Cost of uniforms? Equipment? Coaches clothing? First Aid Kit? Practice balls? Sanction fees? etc.... Now ASA wants to charge for coaches to be "trained". There are many misc. expenses I haven't mentioned. Maybe some of the organizations treasurers can post a number of misc. expenses that you would not even think about. (for ex. 12U generally play in more tournaments that lets say - 16 or 18U)
Once that is done, total the costs for a team - leave a little breathing room and divide by the number of girls on the team.
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It depends on how bad you need players and how bad you want to field a team. At this time of the year most girls are committed to a team and the girls that are looking to jump teams do not want to pay full price. Your team should already have raised enough money to pay for the tournaments, uniforms, practice facilities and misc. items (insurance, sanctioning, etc.) therefore, any additional money is gravy. I would at least get enough for uniforms (say $150.00 - $200.00) but if you hold out for a full fee this late in the season I would say good luck. It is not fair that your players raised money to play and then not be able to field a team. Simple supply and demand, you need players and there isn't many left, so you may have to lower your fee, at this time of the year you will be lucky not to have to let girls play for free in order to field a team. Good luck!!
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Johnnies you nailed it with the Misc. expenses. The uniforms and tourney entry are a good chunk, but the little stuff adds up quick.
Tournaments - $250 per player (12) (8 x $375 ea on average)
Uniforms - $220 per player (includes helmet, batbag, visor, 4 socks and 2 sets)
Total - $470
Now lets look at all the Misc that gets divided between all the girls:
Coaches Stipen - $800/12= approx. $67 per player
Coaches Shirts & caps/visors (3) - $15 per players
Coaches registration & BG check (3) - $5 per player
first aid - $5-$10 per player for the season
ASA - $12 per player (includes insurance)
NSA - $3 per player
PONY - $4 per player
USSSA - $3 per player
Catchers gear in team colors - $20 per player (capitalized over 2 to 3 years)
Practice Balls - $5 per player per dozen
Pop-up net - $10 per player (capitalized over 2 to 3 years)
Team cooler w/cups & Ice - $5 per player
Score Book refills - $3 per player
Batting T's (2) - $4 per player
Hittin` stick - $3 per player
Wiffle Balls - $3 per player
Pop-up Shade - $10 per player
etc.
Total = $173+
Overall total is around $620 figuring the capitalized items. Our fees this year were $475 for new players and credits were given to returning players for helmets, batbags, serviceable uniforms allowing some players to pay as little as $240 this year due to our fundraising. Now someone who wants to come onboard is going to be expected to pay their share of the expenses, this is a TEAM effort.
Tournaments - $250 per player (12) (8 x $375 ea on average)
Uniforms - $220 per player (includes helmet, batbag, visor, 4 socks and 2 sets)
Total - $470
Now lets look at all the Misc that gets divided between all the girls:
Coaches Stipen - $800/12= approx. $67 per player
Coaches Shirts & caps/visors (3) - $15 per players
Coaches registration & BG check (3) - $5 per player
first aid - $5-$10 per player for the season
ASA - $12 per player (includes insurance)
NSA - $3 per player
PONY - $4 per player
USSSA - $3 per player
Catchers gear in team colors - $20 per player (capitalized over 2 to 3 years)
Practice Balls - $5 per player per dozen
Pop-up net - $10 per player (capitalized over 2 to 3 years)
Team cooler w/cups & Ice - $5 per player
Score Book refills - $3 per player
Batting T's (2) - $4 per player
Hittin` stick - $3 per player
Wiffle Balls - $3 per player
Pop-up Shade - $10 per player
etc.
Total = $173+
Overall total is around $620 figuring the capitalized items. Our fees this year were $475 for new players and credits were given to returning players for helmets, batbags, serviceable uniforms allowing some players to pay as little as $240 this year due to our fundraising. Now someone who wants to come onboard is going to be expected to pay their share of the expenses, this is a TEAM effort.
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If you charged them what everyone else paid minus the cost of tournaments already played won't you have those other expenses covered?
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No, because the difference in the fees and the expenses is offset by taking part in the fundraising effort. Only those who take part in the fundraising efforts reap the rewards.
If you let players come onboard late and get away with a discount there is no incentive to join earlier.
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I understand and agree, but if you want me to join your team and are penalizing me for the car wash 2 months ago i didnt even know existed kinda bothers me.
If the team was looking for players like this post stated thye were short, i wouldnt back date the fundraising fees and would only apply the tournament theory.
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I think our teams must do fundraising differently. Yours must do team fundraising while ours does individual. Fees are set and then each family can pay it all or do fundraising to cover some or even all their fees. We had some that had all their fees covered by their fundraising. Anything done as a team is divided amongst all that participate.
For a late comer to our team it would work to take that set fee and deduct the cost of any tournaments already played.
For a late comer to our team it would work to take that set fee and deduct the cost of any tournaments already played.
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It has been my policy that if you quit there is no refund, period! If you are indeed a travel team then you should have scheduled and paid for your tournaments months ago. A player shouldn't be responsible for winter practice facilities, fall leagues or indoor tournaments for which they did not participate. If you have met your obligations as for paying for the tournaments and expenses then there is no reason to charge a high fee. My daughters played for teams that were short players (because of team jumpers) where they scrambled to get players so they could even play. They filled their roster and most of them never paid a dime. It was either they played for free or they didn't attend the tournaments.
All I know is the good players are already committed and I think that you will find it difficult to find quality girls at this time of the season. There are some good players out there that just can't afford to play travel ball and if you want to fill your roster then you may have to back off the fees. I guess it boils down to how bad do you need players?
I have to question why you are short players at this time of the season?
All I know is the good players are already committed and I think that you will find it difficult to find quality girls at this time of the season. There are some good players out there that just can't afford to play travel ball and if you want to fill your roster then you may have to back off the fees. I guess it boils down to how bad do you need players?
I have to question why you are short players at this time of the season?
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We do organization wide fundraising events (Reverse Raffle, Texas Hold'em, etc.) and the teams are welcome to do whatever additional fundraising they feel they need to do.
We're not talking about $30 or $40 from a car wash. Each player is responsible to sell a certain number of tickets for the events, thus the equal distribution of profits, usually $150+ per player across all of our teams.
If we have a player leave during the season they get NO refund of any fees and those fees and fundraising monies are applied to any replacement player that may come onboard.
We're not talking about $30 or $40 from a car wash. Each player is responsible to sell a certain number of tickets for the events, thus the equal distribution of profits, usually $150+ per player across all of our teams.
If we have a player leave during the season they get NO refund of any fees and those fees and fundraising monies are applied to any replacement player that may come onboard.
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