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Just curious?! What does a tournament cost a TD? To book fields, umpires etc. Are programs making much money these days?
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There are a lot of factors such as; location, type of event, size of the event, weather and what relationship the TDs has with local parks/city, and a biggie is it a sanctioned event.
I do not think many are cash cows but; they should be clearing something decent or they would not be taking place.
If an organization is using one of the super mens private parks they will not make much at all but; most of the work is taken care of as far as umpires, fields, updating website for sanctioning body etc. (Sometimes just a cut of the gate fee for the host team using these parks)
Using a City, County or TWP park allows for more revenue potential unless the TD has a friend at a private park.
As a township resident I can rent a 200 foot set up field for $100 a day open fields are $50 per field per day that would include all the initial field maintainance etc. One umpire is $35 to $40 per game. I would think this would be about the norm in other areas and would be a little cheaper with more than a couple fields.
On a much smaller scale; we held some 4 game 5 team friendlys that cost $120 a team over the years on a Saturday or Sunday. After renting the fields, paying umpires we made about $250 for the day. (Mainly on concessions)
The field rental included the initial field maintenance,trash pick-up etc. I had a liner and some rakes and we touched up the fields as needed.
The Keith Carver Memorial open is a scholarship tournament that has a target of $1000 dollars. It is a 10 team two day event that cost $200 hosted in cooperation with the city of Maysville, Kroger, Best Western. They rely on donations from participants, concessions and get breaks from the local business partners to make anything for the scholarship.
As far as expectations: If an event is labled a "premier event" suchas a large college showcase, National it should have: quality umpiring and umpire facilities, attracts quality teams, is held at facilities with proper field set up, clean rest rooms with concessions and ample parking including handicap access. Communication such as one call /web service available for updates etc. These events generally cost a team between $600-$800 for 5+ games. Nationals are less.
If it is a non sanctioned event or small showcase / qualifier the expectations are lower but you also only pay $350-$450 for these events for 4+ games. Sometimes these smaller events turn out surprizingly well run.
http://www.nonprofitfacts.com/OH/Gapss-Inc.html
This link does not break down actual expenses but it can give you an idea of how much some of theses events / teams / organazation generate overall.
I do not think many are cash cows but; they should be clearing something decent or they would not be taking place.
If an organization is using one of the super mens private parks they will not make much at all but; most of the work is taken care of as far as umpires, fields, updating website for sanctioning body etc. (Sometimes just a cut of the gate fee for the host team using these parks)
Using a City, County or TWP park allows for more revenue potential unless the TD has a friend at a private park.
As a township resident I can rent a 200 foot set up field for $100 a day open fields are $50 per field per day that would include all the initial field maintainance etc. One umpire is $35 to $40 per game. I would think this would be about the norm in other areas and would be a little cheaper with more than a couple fields.
On a much smaller scale; we held some 4 game 5 team friendlys that cost $120 a team over the years on a Saturday or Sunday. After renting the fields, paying umpires we made about $250 for the day. (Mainly on concessions)
The field rental included the initial field maintenance,trash pick-up etc. I had a liner and some rakes and we touched up the fields as needed.
The Keith Carver Memorial open is a scholarship tournament that has a target of $1000 dollars. It is a 10 team two day event that cost $200 hosted in cooperation with the city of Maysville, Kroger, Best Western. They rely on donations from participants, concessions and get breaks from the local business partners to make anything for the scholarship.
As far as expectations: If an event is labled a "premier event" suchas a large college showcase, National it should have: quality umpiring and umpire facilities, attracts quality teams, is held at facilities with proper field set up, clean rest rooms with concessions and ample parking including handicap access. Communication such as one call /web service available for updates etc. These events generally cost a team between $600-$800 for 5+ games. Nationals are less.
If it is a non sanctioned event or small showcase / qualifier the expectations are lower but you also only pay $350-$450 for these events for 4+ games. Sometimes these smaller events turn out surprizingly well run.
http://www.nonprofitfacts.com/OH/Gapss-Inc.html
This link does not break down actual expenses but it can give you an idea of how much some of theses events / teams / organazation generate overall.
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thanks for the info.
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I sent you a PM.
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"Back in the day" I had heard that if you host an ASA sanctioned tournament, you automatically qualify for Eastern Nationals. Was that true? Is it still true? How about NSA, USSSA, Pony, etc.?
I can see where some organizations would think that even losing a couple bucks by hosting a tournament would still be acceptable if it got you into the Big Show...
I can see where some organizations would think that even losing a couple bucks by hosting a tournament would still be acceptable if it got you into the Big Show...
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Expenses
Sanction fees, field rental, field preparation, field dry, hand tools, liners, lime, paint, signage, labor, trophies, umpires, shirts, concession supplies, plates, rubbers, toilets, more field dry.....
Income
Entry fees, shirts, concessions.....
If income exceeds expenses then you've made a few bucks for the sponsoring organization and might do it again next year.
Sanction fees, field rental, field preparation, field dry, hand tools, liners, lime, paint, signage, labor, trophies, umpires, shirts, concession supplies, plates, rubbers, toilets, more field dry.....
Income
Entry fees, shirts, concessions.....
If income exceeds expenses then you've made a few bucks for the sponsoring organization and might do it again next year.
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My expectations at a tournament are pretty simple: A couple hot dogs and I'm happy... although cheese coneys would be wicked awesome!!
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sammy...which ball park has the best hot dogs? 
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sammy...which ball park has the best hot dogs?
Not going there! But I admit I am partial to one in particular...
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