What kind of coach does this?

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Just need all your knowledgeable opinions on a coach that squawks at his DD while she is catching (half heartedly attempting to, I should say) and the last thing he says to her is "Don't worry about catching another ball cuz you are out after this inning". This was the first inning of the game. Then, lo and behold, here she comes in her catcher's gear out for a second inning and another two innings after that.

That's not even the baffling part. When my DD who was pitching and heard all the squawking, says the coach asked the team if they thought she should sit but of course they didn't want to say yes! I have has other issues with the coaching ability of the coach but that just put the icing on the cake for me!

This is a young 14u team and the plan was to keep this group together to grow as a team.
It sounded like a good idea but I think we are going to leave our options open after this.

 

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run. fast. MD

 

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Was he correcting what she was doing wrong in the first place? Or just yelling at her without correcting the mistake she made? Was the coach even knowledgable enough to correct the player and communicate to her the correct way? And was that the best way of correcting a player by telling her how bad she was, threaten her, tell her to give up because she wont be back in, then 5 minutes later tells her shes doing fine keep your head up and sends her back out on there without ever teaching her how... Maybe he feels its a form of reverse psychology.. I just dont think at 14 or 18 for that matter I would care for that tactic.. There just kids and should be having fun!!! isnt that the point?? 90 % of the girls playing today wont ever even play beyond HS.. So how fun would that be?? I know I wouldnt like to make a basic mistake on my real and have my boss telling me dont worry about the rest of the job bcuz I wont be back tomorrow... If that is close to what your dealing with, then I would say you have keep your options open... Good Luck

 

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Dan.......We got our running shoes ready. We are going to finish out this season out. This is my DDs third year in travel ball and has had three different coaches. Our first experience was similar to this year. That team only won 3 games all year! Her 2nd year she had a fantastic coach and had a winning season. The second coaches daughter hussled more than anyone on the team. Both coaches quit after the year was up so we were trying to find a team that was going to stay together. It's not working out so well

Champ.....At first he was trying to coach her in what she was doing wrong but she just got an attitude, as usual, so he made his "idle" threat and gave up on that inning. The bickering between the two of them is common. The upsetting part to me was that my DD had to pitch during this and heard all the comments. Then, left it up to the girls as to whether she stayed in or not. Instead of following through with what he said, he put the team in a bad spot. It has just been an all around frustrating experience.

 

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Sounds like the coach doesn't know how to parent his own kid let alone 12 kids. It's a terrible idea for the coach to ask the players if his daughter should sit. Using the players to do the coaches job is jerky in my opinion. My sympathy goes out to you because it's probably gonna be a long season with stupid decisions like that.

 

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I ask you this, Why put your DD through this and I give warning....I have seen parents do this exact thing your doing and it burned the girl out so much she won't play no more for anyone....Jump ship now if your feeling this way I'm sure there are more on the team feeling this way also, I understand you don't want to leave the girl's on the team maybe, but if a coach asks the girl's on the team if he should pull his own DD then all he did was create problems....I myself would yank my DD from a idiot like this...JMO

 

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I would not stay just for the sake of finishing out the year (heck at 14-16-18 the season is just starting) . A contract to a team is a two way contract , what they promised you and what you promised them. MD

 

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I would not stay just for the sake of finishing out the year (heck at 14-16-18 the season is just starting) . A contract to a team is a two way contract , what they promised you and what you promised them. MD

well said MD

 

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My DD lives to be between the lines so we left it up to her. She is a very mature, leveled headed 13yo so she wants to finish. We only have 2 tournaments left so we are hanging. I so appreciate all of your input. :yahoo:

 

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There are many things to think about in this situation. Are the other parents as upset as you? Have you discussed it with them? A valid point of interest is the contract issue, would the parents be willing to approach the coach and help him make a decision to step down and fill the spot with somebody more qualified. From the information you provided, it doesn't appear this man should be in charge let alone be at the park. lol.

Seriously, the 14u age group, in my opinion, is the most important age bracket in fastpitch. The girls participating at this level are grooming for their freshman year of high school ball, preparing for their last year of Rec and/or junior high ball, or more importantly deciding if they want to continue with softball at all. It's a hard choice to make. Do they commit or take a different course in their young life. Some may realize another sport or activity is more passionate to them. Some are beginning to learn their worth to the team environment. They may not see themselves as an active top-9 on the roster player and suddenly realize that 14u and above is for real and they need to step their game up. Some------not many-----will finally realize that with determination they can be one of those 2% that continue playing the game after high school or 18u.

My point is; the age bracket is a turning point in their life and shouldn't be squandered. Remove the coach or run like suggested. The 2 or so seasons at 14u are critical.

If you believe the situation is repairable and this was an isolated incident, approach the coach and make him aware of the blunder and point out everyone's concern. This is something I believe the parents need to act on. This is not a job for the girls. There are times when the girls should step up and address issues but I don't feel this is one of them. The guy's daughter is also a part of the equation. This puts the other girls in an awkward situation. The grown ups need to handle this. You can't tell a parent how to raise their family but you can make demands on how an authority figure handles your kids along with others. There are people skills that some just have the gift while others need to learn them. Some may never get it. The fact is; this guy will not be able to coach to his fullest ability while he loses respect of his players and is constantly distracted by his own child on the field.

Find a replacement and ask the existing coach to "man up" for the well-being of the entire team. If he refuses and decides to walk, it doesn't sound like you're losing much.

 

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Just need all your knowledgeable opinions on a coach that squawks at his DD while she is catching (half heartedly attempting to, I should say) and the last thing he says to her is "Don't worry about catching another ball cuz you are out after this inning". This was the first inning of the game. Then, lo and behold, here she comes in her catcher's gear out for a second inning and another two innings after that.

That's not even the baffling part. When my DD who was pitching and heard all the squawking, says the coach asked the team if they thought she should sit but of course they didn't want to say yes! I have has other issues with the coaching ability of the coach but that just put the icing on the cake for me!

To answer your question on "What kind of coach does this?"...

One that is very frustrated with the performance of his DD in the game, due directly to the DD's unwillingness to work on her game at home through the week. This has been festering the entire season as he sees her continue to struggle in a position he feels she should be playing, as she continues to not want to do what is needed outside the weekend to get better. He is embarrased that her performance is lacking, resulting in the lashing out at her in frustration. He clearly wants it more than her at this point and just needs to throw in the towel, step back and let the cards fall how they may.

or...

She wants to work through the week to get better but her father is always busy working with other kids from the team or neighborhood, or has a job that keeps him away, and has no time for her, resulting in the same situation as mention previously. Same result...step back and look at the bigger picture.

 

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sound like a good spot to start. " you might be a travel ball coach if"

 

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Wow that's a tough situation for his daughter... He's going to be a coach for what 4 years or so? He has to remember he will be her dad for life and the memories at this age are life changing sometimes good and bad...

 

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My DD lives to be between the lines so we left it up to her. She is a very mature, leveled headed 13yo so she wants to finish. We only have 2 tournaments left so we are hanging. I so appreciate all of your input. :yahoo:

Two tournaments or Two months????? :lmao:

The season is just starting for 14U's

 

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Hey, Catalyst.. tell me... does Wilmington have a travel ball team ?

Talked with niece last night and her daughter plays in that city rec league up there.

She's 11 and I guess she just pounds the ball for a 11 year old.

Is there something up there for her beside rec league?

 

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I will say this.... it is very difficult to coach your kid. You above all know what she can and cannot due and how much she does and does not practice. You correct them when you may have let it slide with someone else, you jump on them when with others you may encourage. Doesn't make it right one but it certainly happens. Coming the other way the player over-reacts to your coaching when another player would not in the exact situation (tone, etc) and that doesn't help any. Does that again make it right? Nope.

I try very hard to stay away from my daughter but it doesn't always work out. This past weekend she was very upset at something I did that I didn't even know I did until I thought back on it. She over-reacted but her perception was her reality because she is sensitive to my approval and dis-approval. Very tough.

So..... what this coach did doesn't sound like it should have been done but consider how potentially hard it is for one to be coach and the other to be a catcher who may not be doing what she can do. I wasn't there, I don't know. Quite possibly dad and daughter may not be able to exist on the same team.... I know I personally give that plenty of thought with my daughter.

 

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not even worth a conversation. Get the YELL out of there. There are good coaches out there. Don't let him put a bad taste in your mouth.

 

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Hey, Catalyst.. tell me... does Wilmington have a travel ball team ?

Talked with niece last night and her daughter plays in that city rec league up there.

She's 11 and I guess she just pounds the ball for a 11 year old.

Is there something up there for her beside rec league?

Sent you a PM

 

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Why hasn't anyone posted for the parents to approach the coach and tell him to quit blowing his daughter up and acting like an idiot?! Oh I guess I just did