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Depends on what age group we are talking. If I have a fast runer on second, she has a green light to steal anytime the pitcher throws the change or if she gets= to the short stop on her break. I know she can beat her to third. Normally we are faking the bunt to make third pull in. I have her on first going 90% of the time but I love to make the catcher throw to first and then go.