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Question Saw this at game have thought about it for a while and cant figure out a reason?????????

Runners on 2nd and 3rd with less then 2 outs base hit to centerfielder which is playing at med depth. cnter fields ball no play at plate gets ball to 2nd holds runner at 3rd. Coach yells at her she should have thrown ball to 1st use her head. Hard to beleave there is anygood reason to do that. Would like to think that on long throw to 1st runner on 3rd would have scored ??? then you give up 2 runs instead of 1

Thanks in advance

 

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i could see throwing to 1st from center with no one on base...but even thats a long shot to make an out...but never with runners on...that coach must be related to our coach ;D

 

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Wev'e done it from left field with a cannon arm many times over the years..... Be aggressive....

 

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I would think you would be protecting against the lead runner. Maybe you try this with a big lead and the runner on first took a big round and was looking to advance . Thinking the attention paid to the runner at third but unless the runner at first is daydreaming I would think she could get back and the runner on third would hopefully be going home on the throw to one. That scenario seems like a stretch to me but anything is possible dplending on the specifics of the game and communication between players.

 

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My oldest dtrs coach had them doing that all the time. and whe you have a cannon for an arm 80% of the time they got the out then they could throw it either home or to third to get another out....... Last yr she played lf and threw to first to get the out....... In the older ages it is done qute often.

 

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Wev'e done it from left field with a cannon arm many times over the years..... Be aggressive....

Do you mean right field? I can't imagine having a shot at a runner from left field to first.

 

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I have seen CF's who get the perfect liner/ one hop pick up while they were charging in towards right make throws to 1st for outs or catch fly balls and gun to 1st to beat the tag up, but in general throwing behind the lead runner is risky. All that being said, I wasn't there to see the whole situation and I don't know what the coach teaches at practice. If this is something he's addrssed in practice that could explain his outburst. I'm not in favor of public outbursts, but that could be the reason.

 

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In a scrimmage the other night our left handed center fielder made an out at home from center. Nice play good shot!

 

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?I was always taught growing up to get the ball in quickly, hitting cut off (pitcher). Catcher will either tell pitcher to cut or let go for play at home.

 

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I'm just assuming that the coach uses the 1st baseman as the cutoff for plays at the plate. Also assuming that he wanted his CF throwing thru to the plate to "1st", who could have cut the ball and still held runner at third, and possibly made a play on runner rounding 1st or 3rd to far. I teach my OF to throw to or thru there cutoffs, ahead of the runner, to prevent runners from advancing, and like my relays to work in behind advancing runners at the bases in case the runners round to far.

On the other hand, if the coach wanted the ball thrown to first base, I feel he might be asking for trouble, but not being there, I can only speculate.

 

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I can't see a reason to throw to 1st in that spot. It goes against everything any player would be taught in that situation. Now, if the runner fell down on her way to first or something like that, then maybe. But routine base hit to center, at medium depth, I have my girls hitting the pitcher with the throw home keeping the runner from 2nd at 3rd and the batter at 1st. They'll have to earn that 2nd run. Plus, I don't care how good of an arm a player has, getting the out at first from left or center field can't be anywhere near 80% successful unless there is really something wrong with the other teams running. To me, throwing to first in that case is not being aggressive. That would be not "using your head". Just my opinion.

 

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Re - read original post and it reads as if the coach wants the ball thrown to 1st,(as in base), as opposed to 1st baseman in cut position. I gotta go with "I wasn't there so I don't know what he was thinking". :-/

 

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Sorry but it just doesn't make any sense to throw to first on that play and take a chance of runners advancing (including the one who hit the ball). If it was a first base cut that was intended, then that would be a different story.

 

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1st base was not the cut wanted to make out at 1st. I think people got confused because i dont see many throws from left to 1st no matter how strong your arm is. And also have not seen many centerfielders throw out at 1st I guess the stars could aline and runner could trip but not a regular occurance. Im talking like this should always be done. according to coach.

 

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monday at norton, saw center fielder throw girl out at home plate from deep in center. runner had started on second, throw was right on money..they called fielder popeye?
anyone familiar with her?

 

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If I read it right, no run scored -- coach is having coronary -- all is normal!!

Hit behind your runners, throw ball in front of runners.

 

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Warren what age group were the girls? If they are 10U I would not usually try to gun them down at first, but I believe that maybe 16U or older may be to make the play if the runner trips hits her head and is knocked unconcious.

I've been reading The Ringer way to long.

 

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Annie
Ive seen that alot from the outfield thats two bases ahead not one.

 

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Ringer,
No, I am talking left field.. We have had a few over the years that have done it. Most of them are or have gone onto colleges to play.

 

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?Hilliarddad3
Those girls your talking about had to just be showing off their arms. I've been around ball a long time and I've never seen somebody thrown out by a leftfielder at first. If a player for me was thrown out in that situation and didn't fall going to first, she had better keep running right to parking lot. She's gonna be sitting on the bench for lack of hustle.