you coachs have any players try to sneak past this safety requirement ?

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remove tongue piercings ? I talk to lots of coach's in different areas but had one recently tell a coach if the stud ( ring ?) isnt allowed she will just not play . senior , got by with it last year . new staff this year .

 

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Haven't looked at the OHSAA rules in a couple of years, but assuming tongue piercings are specifically not allowed, how can I as a coach go to the pre-game meeting with the umpire and other coach and lie when he or she asks if all of my players are properly equipped and not wearing jewelry? Am pretty sure if it's caught later in the game that both that player and myself would be removed from it. We all need to learn to live with the rules whether we like or agree with them or not ...

 

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High school rule is that on the first offense a team warning is issued. The player would then need to correct the problem to continue participation. Second offense by the same team results in both player and coach being restricted to the bench. So they kind of get one freebie...

But still...is there anyone playing or coaching high school ball that doesn't know jewelry is illegal? Why skirt the rule or risk serious injury?

 

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It sounds to me like it's more of the coaches'/ump's personal policy. I've never heard of an OHSAA/ASA/NCAA/NSA rule regarding tongue piercings. I'd like to see the coach/ump give a legitimate reason for not allowing it - other than "I just don't like them".

12:20 PM - retraction - the rule says "jewelry"... This qualifies. I'll shut up now.

 

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Somewhat related....or not. I saw a coach last summer that would give their batters candy if they reached 1st base. Sort of as a reward.

I couldn't think of a better way to have a player choke, heading into 2nd.

 

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and isn't there a rule about contacting the players while on base...

 

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and isn't there a rule about contacting the players while on base...

No, there isn't.

 

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a USFA umpire almost tossed me at 10u for high five'n a player after she hit a triple in USFA World Series. He said, "you know you can't contact a player, and as he winked, he said " you missed on the high five, right"... I said sure... He then said, "you know the rule book says you can be ejected". I said, "hmmm, that's odd. Good to know."

 

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a USFA umpire almost tossed me at 10u for high five'n a player after she hit a triple in USFA World Series. He said, "you know you can't contact a player, and as he winked, he said " you missed on the high five, right"... I said sure... He then said, "you know the rule book says you can be ejected". I said, "hmmm, that's odd. Good to know."

Obviously an umpire that doesn't understand the rule. But he's not alone. That you can't in any way touch a baserunner is one of the biggest softball rule myths. Not a year goes by where this rule mtyh doesn't pop up and rear it's ugly head.

The rules prohibit a base coach from physically assisting a runner who is running the bases. "Physically assisting" would include things like pushing a runner toward a base, grabbing her to get her to stop or helping her up off the ground if she happens to fall.

Congratulatory slaps, handshakes or high-fives should not be regarded as "physically assisting the runner".

 

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yeah, and that was my understanding...

So at the end of my exchange with him I said under my breath.... "and they selected the best (USFA) umpires from across the USA and I got the bad one..."... he turned and said, what was that. I said, thanks, didn't know that and he walked off. A close one...

 

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There have been several threads lately where we talk about our responsibility as coaches to teach our players more than just about softball. For the coach who chooses to let this player play and hopes she doesn't get caught, what have we taught that girl and her teammates:


* It's OK to break the rules if you don't get caught?
* It's OK to lie to people in authority (i.e., the umpire in this case)?
* It's OK to not follow rules if you don't agree with them?
* It's OK to have some rules for some players, and not for other players? (assuming this player is a better one)
* It's OK to put the rest of your team in jeopardy to do what you want to do?

 

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There have been several threads lately where we talk about our responsibility as coaches to teach our players more than just about softball. For the coach who chooses to let this player play and hopes she doesn't get caught, what have we taught that girl and her teammates:

* It's OK to break the rules if you don't get caught?
* It's OK to lie to people in authority (i.e., the umpire in this case)?
* It's OK to not follow rules if you don't agree with them?
* It's OK to have some rules for some players, and not for other players? (assuming this player is a better one)
* It's OK to put the rest of your team in jeopardy to do what you want to do?

She's in control - she can do whatever she wants because coach will give into her threat of quitting. Kids test boundaries and responsible adults need to enforce them.

 

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The sad thing is that if the coach does enforce it, you can be sure that some people will be critical for doing so when last year's coach didn't. MD ... would be interested in hearing what happens with this one if you are able to share later.

 

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The sad thing is that if the coach does enforce it, you can be sure that some people will be critical for doing so when last year's coach didn't. ...

I'll bet there will be many things of which some people will be critical. It's part of the job description, right?

Different coaches will handle it differently depending on their personal ethics and ability to manage players. Some coaches will let it go because they don't agree with the rule and some will be able to convince the player to comply. Regardless, the worst possible outcome is to have the player think the coach caved in to their threat of quitting.

 

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Somewhat related....or not. I saw a coach last summer that would give their batters candy if they reached 1st base. Sort of as a reward.

I couldn't think of a better way to have a player choke, heading into 2nd.

I give the young ladies on our team a gummy worm if they reach 1st base, they are a 18u team the girls love it. My DD college coach gives them jelly beans if they reach 3rd base. I HOPE AT THIS AGE THEY CAN HANDLE IT.

 

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will I need to take out my nipple ring while coaching 3rd base? LOL!!! People who know me are gagging at the visual I created...

 

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will I need to take out my nipple ring while coaching 3rd base? LOL!!! People who know me are gagging at the visual I created...

for the terrible image (delete, delete, delete....) you have just revoked your OFC speaking privileges!!!! Now if you were referring to Superbowl mishap, that is still FCC compliant .

 

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I give the young ladies on our team a gummy worm if they reach 1st base, they are a 18u team the girls love it. My DD college coach gives them jelly beans if they reach 3rd base. I HOPE AT THIS AGE THEY CAN HANDLE IT.

At that age we are giving them candy for getting a hit or reaching additional bases? I guess whatever motivates them eh? To each his own......sounds kinda like a dog show...;&

Agree they should be able to handle it but just weird to me

 

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At a friendly at Hall a Fame Fitness , the umpire said " Make sure all jewlery is removed " other coach said what about tongue ring ? ump said " no rule on that yet so its fine "

 

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At that age we are giving them candy for getting a hit or reaching additional bases? I guess whatever motivates them eh? To each his own......sounds kinda like a dog show...;&

Agree they should be able to handle it but just weird to me

I don't do it to motivate them, it's just a silly thing I do for them. Hopefully they are motivated by the chance to play at the next level. My young ladies are studs not dogs.