When Did Crowhop Pitchers Become Exceptable

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I have no problem with an umpire calling illegal pitches. But when they call the hands coming together twice, or not coming together at all as an illegal pitch (when there is no real big advantage for doing this) and then in the same game allow a pitcher to crow hop 3 to 4 feet in front of the mound, or to side arm pitch or be a foot outside of the pitchers plate (all of which have a HUGE ADVANTAGE) drive me NUTS....
 
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It became exceptable when they became acceptional at doing it... sorry, I couldn't resist.
 
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I have no problem with an umpire calling illegal pitches. But when they call the hands coming together twice, or not coming together at all as an illegal pitch (when there is no real big advantage for doing this) and then in the same game allow a pitcher to crow hop 3 to 4 feet in front of the mound, or to side arm pitch or be a foot outside of the pitchers plate (all of which have a HUGE ADVANTAGE) drive me NUTS....

Yes I agree that crowhopping is a bigger disadvantage to the batter than a pitcher bringing her hands together more than once. I just don't know why an ump would be more picky with things like that when, crowhoppers takes 2 push-offs to deliver their pitches and not call-it...:eek:
 
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i honestly believe the majority of people would not know it if they seen it.went and watched one of my 12u pitchers pitch her jr high game told me they were changing her so she did not crowhop.watched her every once in a while her foot would come off maybe half inch but would release ball before came down i dont think that is crowhop have to replant right.if anything would be leap but was a hole in front of rubber so cant always drag in that scenario
 
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Went to John Carrol and Case Western game this past week . One pitcher was a leaper, (barely) didnt think it mattered at all. (never bothered me) but one pitcher delivered about a full foot outside of her hip. Isn't that illegal?
 
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We will see more and more of it when the mounds move back to 43 feet.
 
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i honestly believe the majority of people would not know it if they seen it.went and watched one of my 12u pitchers pitch her jr high game told me they were changing her so she did not crowhop.watched her every once in a while her foot would come off maybe half inch but would release ball before came down i dont think that is crowhop have to replant right.if anything would be leap but was a hole in front of rubber so cant always drag in that scenario

She has to have some sort of contact with the Ground at all Times from her dragg or pivot foot. Now Crowhoppers will sneak in a second push-off after pushing off from the rubber and then dragg. Some Crowhoppers are soo good at it that they can do-it so fast. That it is not much noticed by the Non-pitcher parents(no offense). You can tell who the Pitcher Parents are. They are the ones that focus all the attention on the pitcher during games, while other parents are watching the batter at bat. They study every move from the pitcher and want see how that Pitcher stacks-up against their DD.

Seems to me from what you have said, that she is more of a "Leaper" than a Crowhopper. I don't think it hurts her in anyway to take her to a good pitching instructor and have her working on having contact with the ground. Who knows how long these umps will allow leaping pitch to continue? :confused: But then again...They still allow Crowhopping!
 
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Went to John Carrol and Case Western game this past week . One pitcher was a leaper, (barely) didnt think it mattered at all. (never bothered me) but one pitcher delivered about a full foot outside of her hip. Isn't that illegal?

Are you talking about like a Sidearm Pitcher?
 
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I have to wonder when I look at pictures on various newspaper's photo galleries & see pitchers caught leaping. Would never have guessed from watching them pitch in person, but a picture is worth a thousand words.
 
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Yes side arm is illegal, the hand can be no farther from the hip then the elbow is on delivery
 
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Amen! Bad habits are the hardest to break. My 15 year old DD was breaking down another pitcher's motion last night and found that crop-hop as almost offensive to the art. She knows what to look for, why can't officials see it?
 
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