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I AM COACHING A SELECT TEAM FOR THE FIRST TIME AND WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY GIRLS FROM THE SAME SCHOOL ARE ALLOWED ON THE TEAM I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT IF I AM NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THE SCHOOL OR BEING PAID IT DOES NOT MATTER IS THIS TRUE
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If you are coaching a team that plays strickly indoors it does not matter, since OHSAA does not consider it softball for the young ladies when playing inside. ?However, if you are playing outside at the present time or plan to do so, it does matter and 4 is the limit from the same school. ? ?I think the 4 player limit begins after August 1st unless you are in a national tournament, in which case the rule will not go into affect until after that tournament is completed. ??
I am sure someone will give you the exact rule concerning this, and if not I will look it up for you. ?
It has been discussed on here before so a search would probably help also.?
I am sure someone will give you the exact rule concerning this, and if not I will look it up for you. ?
It has been discussed on here before so a search would probably help also.?
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Here is a link to the OHSAA website and rules concerning the question. ?Paragraph 4.21, 4.22 & 4.23 explains it in detail. ?Hope this helps. ?
http://www.ohsaa.org/sports/rglts/SB06-07.pdf
http://www.ohsaa.org/sports/rglts/SB06-07.pdf
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For what I get out of it, there is a conflict of 4.21 and 4.22. Depending on how you read 4.22 from June 1- July 31 you can have the whole team and the coach can be there for the 10 day contact rule. So if you get a coach that doesn't coach or volunteer at the school to coach them then they can play together. The coach of that school can't have more then 4 of his team on a team during that time.
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Ultra, if they are an OHSAA sanctioned school, from 8/1 until summer ball, no more than 4 girls from the same school even though freshman have not even tried out yet, can play together outdoors. Indoors is not recognized by OHSAA. Your brain will explode trying to read the jargon, but when I called them, that is the answer I got a few years back.
Hope that helps
Hope that helps
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This topic has been on OFC many times. You may want to use the search function and read previous threads it will speed up the process of info gathering.
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This topic should be in a sticky note in this forum.
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But it doesn't say when he is coaching the select team, so if it is from june 1 to july31 then it doesn't matter.
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Correct--- summer doesn't matter, but they are only allowed 10 contacts with them if they are a paid coach...
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The number from the same school is not the correct interpretation. It's the number from the same school who also compete interscholastically for that school. You can have everyone on your select softball team from the same school and if only 4 compete interscholastically in softball for that school you are within compliance.
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Hilliard Dad,
Freshman are NOT subject to that rule until they actually become part of the team.....so a whole team could be Freshman playing in the fall of their Freshman year. I am a school Board member and have this in writing from one of the commissioners from OHSAA.
The OHSAA rules are fairly clear and I encourage all coaches to read up on it. If you have a question, ask your AD.
Freshman are NOT subject to that rule until they actually become part of the team.....so a whole team could be Freshman playing in the fall of their Freshman year. I am a school Board member and have this in writing from one of the commissioners from OHSAA.
The OHSAA rules are fairly clear and I encourage all coaches to read up on it. If you have a question, ask your AD.
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Think you'll find yourself in violation for that. Rule states four from a school (used to be from the district), doesn't qualify it by saying that they must have competed.luwayla said:
Freshman are a special case. The ruling I've heard is that if their middle school had softball as a sanctioned sport then they count against the four, if their middle school was not sanctioned then they don't count until practices start in the spring.LAKEFP said:
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Who's on first? whats on second?............
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Ours are sanctioned, so we just always take the road of caution that's all... Easier to be safe
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THEBEARMAY,
This if off of the OHSAA website. It does not reference students, only softball players. Of course this does not mean the website is correct.
4.21) The number of interscholastic fast pitch softball players from the same school
on a non-interscholastic squad is limited to four on the roster of that non interscholastic
squad. A roster is defined as all the members of the entire
squad on that non-interscholastic squad.
This if off of the OHSAA website. It does not reference students, only softball players. Of course this does not mean the website is correct.
4.21) The number of interscholastic fast pitch softball players from the same school
on a non-interscholastic squad is limited to four on the roster of that non interscholastic
squad. A roster is defined as all the members of the entire
squad on that non-interscholastic squad.
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Hilliarddad3 are you saying that a freshman counts as one of the four, what if that freshman has no intentions of ever playing high school softball, how can the school or OHSAA have any control over her, or are you saying ASA canHilliarddad3 said:
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OHSAA = Idiots
(I'm tired and cranky)
(I'm tired and cranky)
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Good one Ringer. You must be a bit tired and cranky if you are still on at 11:30pm. Or you are overdosing on coffee! ;D ;D
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Think you'll find that the OHSAA uses the two interchangeably....luwayla said:
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