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Where is the '08 Laser tryout info. I thought the schedule was going to be posted soon. :-?
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Looks like maybe the mods took it all off since it was leading down a dark, dark road. Sad because I was looking forward to seeing that info. Hopefully when the dates are set it can be posted.
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We've all read some threads that make you say, ut-oh. This one must have went off the cliff to completely wipe everything out. Probably for the best.
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? ? I know this organisation is very particular and very professional and they will not stand for
dark clouds on the horizon. ?Laser Nation has no room for this conduct..you will be gone..no matter how
good at fastpitch you may be (that includes-Coaches). >
??Bold 1 stated it very well when he said "you are
replaceable..end of story". ?The kids know that, the coaches know that and most but not all of the
parents know that. ? You will not be a Laser for long if you are involved in this type of conduct. ?
Laserleader will see to that so I'm sure that's why it was removed.
dark clouds on the horizon. ?Laser Nation has no room for this conduct..you will be gone..no matter how
good at fastpitch you may be (that includes-Coaches). >
??Bold 1 stated it very well when he said "you are replaceable..end of story". ?The kids know that, the coaches know that and most but not all of the
parents know that. ? You will not be a Laser for long if you are involved in this type of conduct. ?
Laserleader will see to that so I'm sure that's why it was removed.
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ABC123 I hear what you are saying about the laser nation but perhaps the laser leader should look no further then the team he is coaching on this year when it comes to conduct. this past weekend at stingrays they did a little cute move that was kind of bush league when they were playing one of the other teams there. one of his players (whose dad calls pitches) used to play for this other team, and the dad also coached there. two of the coaches on this other team coached with him until he left and each time one of thier DD's would come up to bat, the coach calling pitches would change pitchers to his own daughter just to come in and pitch to these two players. she would then go back to playing SS but I guess they thought that this was fun, or perhaps funny somehow. either way not really what you would expect out of a team or organization of that caliber, and it leads me back to your statement that the laser leader somehow had no tolerance for such behavior. well he was standing right next to this other coach when he was doing this so I have to wonder if he really does.
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Ut-oh :-X
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Edamame- ? ? Have no doubt in your mind that the Laserleader is nothing but professional both on and off the field. ?I would guess what you witnessed was a tactic (uncommon in most orgs.) that when performed correctly is a very effective and clever. ?Now it may not please the other side and if someone thought that it was funny along the way..well it's probably because it worked. ?The coaches in this org. are expected to take these teams to a level a lot of people may not understand or want to be at..but that's there job and they will do what they have to in order to make these girls think on there own and win games. ?Now if that type of attitude or behavior is not acceptable to your org. then I think you should avoid those teams if you can. ?I don't blame you for not liking that type of competition..it's hard to swallow some times..but that's why the Lasers are who and what they are today and still they have a long way to go to compete with the so Cal. teams. ?Good Luck the rest of your season.
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have to agree with edandme sounds bush league to me. no logical reason for pitching coach to have his dd pitch against other coachs dd.
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...here we go again
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edamame:
:'( :'( :'(
You're probably just mad because it apparently worked. If it would have backfired and the batters smashed hits then you would probably be strutting your stuff instead of whining.
:'( :'( :'(
:'( :'( :'(
You're probably just mad because it apparently worked. If it would have backfired and the batters smashed hits then you would probably be strutting your stuff instead of whining.
:'( :'( :'(
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Shouldn't this discussion be in the general forum? I'm all about free speech, but we are all looking for tryout info in this section.
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ABC123 I can assure you that what I witnessed was not a tatic, it was silly. The game was in hand, and it was clear what was being done. even a little giggling on the sidelines (from both sides actually). look the lasers 10u is a fine team, just like all of thier teams. this is not about bashing them, afterall they won every game at the stingrays this past weekend. it is about pointing out that even the laser leader stands by as silliness happens. that was not a tactic, as no tactic was needed. this was a personal thing and what disappoints is that it was allowed to happen where it clearly did not need to happen. trust me one of the two batters was not the top offensive threat on the team in question, a nice player and a decent hitter, but not someone to pitch around. I have seen plenty of fastpitch softball games played at highl levels and I cannot ever remember seeing a pitcher brought in mid inning to throw to one girl and then be taken back out. in all honesty this is not a common practice.
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Edamame- Noted...thank you. ?Again have a good rest of the season.
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edamame said:
ABC123 I hear what you are saying about the laser nation but perhaps the laser leader should look no further then the team he is coaching on this year when it comes to conduct. this past weekend at stingrays they did a little cute move that was kind of bush league when they were playing one of the other teams there. one of his players (whose dad calls pitches) used to play for this other team, and the dad also coached there. two of the coaches on this other team coached with him until he left and each time one of thier DD's would come up to bat, the coach calling pitches would change pitchers to his own daughter just to come in and pitch to these two players. she would then go back to playing SS but I guess they thought that this was fun, or perhaps funny somehow. either way not really what you would expect out of a team or organization of that caliber, and it leads me back to your statement that the laser leader somehow had no tolerance for such behavior. well he was standing right next to this other coach when he was doing this so I have to wonder if he really does.
edamame also said:
ABC123 I can assure you that what I witnessed was not a tatic, it was silly. The game was in hand, and it was clear what was being done. even a little giggling on the sidelines (from both sides actually). look the lasers 10u is a fine team, just like all of thier teams. this is not about bashing them, afterall they won every game at the stingrays this past weekend. it is about pointing out that even the laser leader stands by as silliness happens. that was not a tactic, as no tactic was needed. this was a personal thing and what disappoints is that it was allowed to happen where it clearly did not need to happen. trust me one of the two batters was not the top offensive threat on the team in question, a nice player and a decent hitter, but not someone to pitch around. I have seen plenty of fastpitch softball games played at highl levels and I cannot ever remember seeing a pitcher brought in mid inning to throw to one girl and then be taken back out. in all honesty this is not a common practice.
Here is my response to edamame:
1 - I made the decision to change pitchers. Our pitching coach did not have his dd pitch against the other coaches? daughters. We have been switching pitchers all year. It was not, and is not, based on when the daughter of the coach of the opponent comes up to bat.
2 - I did not base my decision on who are the daughters of the coaches of the other team. I did not, and do not, know who are the daughters of the coaches of the other team.
3 - I did not bring our pitcher in mid inning to pitch to one girl and then put her back at SS. In the first game she pitched the entire 2nd and 5th innings (except for the first batter in the 2nd inning). In the second game she pitched the entire 2nd, 3rd, and 4th innings (except for the first batter in the 2nd inning). There were no outs when she went in to pitch. She pitched to at least 3 batters every inning she pitched. She got all of the outs in the innings she pitched. She pitched until we got the 3 outs to end the innings.
4 ? I made a strategic decision. There are many factors that go into that strategic decision. Your speculation was not one of them. It was not a personal thing by me or by our other coaches. It was not a silly decision.
I looked up something you have said previously. You sounded like you were against rumors. You said the following: ?This is what is wrong with this forum at times. People get on here and post things and it takes on a life of its own. Most times with little regard for those who are affected by what is said. Maybe we should stick to things that we are absolutly sure of, and not what we heard from our mothers, brothers, best friends cousin that is married to someone's uncle in St. Louis that knows a guy in Jersey who heard about it thru thier blog.?
You do not know what I was thinking. You might think you know. But, what you said about our changing pitchers is wrong in many ways. Please refrain from making false accusations and contributing to rumors being spread.
You are welcome to call me or email me if you want to discuss this more.
ABC123 I hear what you are saying about the laser nation but perhaps the laser leader should look no further then the team he is coaching on this year when it comes to conduct. this past weekend at stingrays they did a little cute move that was kind of bush league when they were playing one of the other teams there. one of his players (whose dad calls pitches) used to play for this other team, and the dad also coached there. two of the coaches on this other team coached with him until he left and each time one of thier DD's would come up to bat, the coach calling pitches would change pitchers to his own daughter just to come in and pitch to these two players. she would then go back to playing SS but I guess they thought that this was fun, or perhaps funny somehow. either way not really what you would expect out of a team or organization of that caliber, and it leads me back to your statement that the laser leader somehow had no tolerance for such behavior. well he was standing right next to this other coach when he was doing this so I have to wonder if he really does.
edamame also said:
ABC123 I can assure you that what I witnessed was not a tatic, it was silly. The game was in hand, and it was clear what was being done. even a little giggling on the sidelines (from both sides actually). look the lasers 10u is a fine team, just like all of thier teams. this is not about bashing them, afterall they won every game at the stingrays this past weekend. it is about pointing out that even the laser leader stands by as silliness happens. that was not a tactic, as no tactic was needed. this was a personal thing and what disappoints is that it was allowed to happen where it clearly did not need to happen. trust me one of the two batters was not the top offensive threat on the team in question, a nice player and a decent hitter, but not someone to pitch around. I have seen plenty of fastpitch softball games played at highl levels and I cannot ever remember seeing a pitcher brought in mid inning to throw to one girl and then be taken back out. in all honesty this is not a common practice.
Here is my response to edamame:
1 - I made the decision to change pitchers. Our pitching coach did not have his dd pitch against the other coaches? daughters. We have been switching pitchers all year. It was not, and is not, based on when the daughter of the coach of the opponent comes up to bat.
2 - I did not base my decision on who are the daughters of the coaches of the other team. I did not, and do not, know who are the daughters of the coaches of the other team.
3 - I did not bring our pitcher in mid inning to pitch to one girl and then put her back at SS. In the first game she pitched the entire 2nd and 5th innings (except for the first batter in the 2nd inning). In the second game she pitched the entire 2nd, 3rd, and 4th innings (except for the first batter in the 2nd inning). There were no outs when she went in to pitch. She pitched to at least 3 batters every inning she pitched. She got all of the outs in the innings she pitched. She pitched until we got the 3 outs to end the innings.
4 ? I made a strategic decision. There are many factors that go into that strategic decision. Your speculation was not one of them. It was not a personal thing by me or by our other coaches. It was not a silly decision.
I looked up something you have said previously. You sounded like you were against rumors. You said the following: ?This is what is wrong with this forum at times. People get on here and post things and it takes on a life of its own. Most times with little regard for those who are affected by what is said. Maybe we should stick to things that we are absolutly sure of, and not what we heard from our mothers, brothers, best friends cousin that is married to someone's uncle in St. Louis that knows a guy in Jersey who heard about it thru thier blog.?
You do not know what I was thinking. You might think you know. But, what you said about our changing pitchers is wrong in many ways. Please refrain from making false accusations and contributing to rumors being spread.
You are welcome to call me or email me if you want to discuss this more.
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What was being implied isn't even allowed.You can't change your pitcher back and forth like that.Right? The ump would have put a stop to that. Not sure of the exact rule wording but I do know that you can't substitute pitchers that often. :-?
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actually you can substitute your pitcher like that.....Bretman....where are you? you'll beable to explain much more eloquently than me!!
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Since bigtrain bailed on this board, it seems the new target of the week is the lasers. I think we need a poll for when they drive off all the laser players and teams, which organization will be the next target of these nasty attacks? Stingrays, Doom, Wave, whoever....
Whatever happened to this board being focused on progressing the skill level and competitiveness of the sport for which it is named? Seems like registration for the board is soaring! All these 1, 2 and 3 posters creating a stink. Just CRAZY. Guess it's time to lock out the dd's so the don't have to see some of these vile posts. Let em just play and quit whining, THEY are the reason we travel all over the country, it's not for you parents to relive your youth, it's the fellowship and memories they are creating for themselves, you're just along for the ride.
So sit down, shut up, and enjoy the ride.
Whatever happened to this board being focused on progressing the skill level and competitiveness of the sport for which it is named? Seems like registration for the board is soaring! All these 1, 2 and 3 posters creating a stink. Just CRAZY. Guess it's time to lock out the dd's so the don't have to see some of these vile posts. Let em just play and quit whining, THEY are the reason we travel all over the country, it's not for you parents to relive your youth, it's the fellowship and memories they are creating for themselves, you're just along for the ride.
So sit down, shut up, and enjoy the ride.
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Hey ump that is what I having been saying all week long. Good to hear someone else feels the same way.
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Way to go UMP!!!!
i totally agree!!! ;D
i totally agree!!! ;D
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Ump, upon further review, ... you just made a great call. - way to get out from behind the plate and up the baseline.
Laser experience is a great opportunity for fine competition, measurement, challenge, growth, and fun. Go to a try-out and see for yourself what is offered, and how it works. Bring skills, confidence, positivity, commitment. A good experience all by itself. Then make the best decision for your daughter and the family. There are ups & downs everywhere, it really is mostly about what you choose to make of it anyways.
- way to get out from behind the plate and up the baseline.Laser experience is a great opportunity for fine competition, measurement, challenge, growth, and fun. Go to a try-out and see for yourself what is offered, and how it works. Bring skills, confidence, positivity, commitment. A good experience all by itself. Then make the best decision for your daughter and the family. There are ups & downs everywhere, it really is mostly about what you choose to make of it anyways.
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