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Does anyone know the rule regarding having contact with your high school coach before your season has started. If your high school coach gives lessons starting in Nov can you take lessons from him if you are paying for the lesson.
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OHSAA rules state that all High school Varsity Coaches cannot have any contact until the legal date stated on the site - normally sometime in March - what "most" coaches do is instruct parents or outside sources to run these things so that they do not get into trouble - if you wan your DD to play on Varsity - NO they cannot take lessons!
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Contact your HS Athletic Director and ask him. It is is job to resolve matters such as this.
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I alos believe we are in a "NO Contact" period until Sept 4th or so as well...
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The Ohio High School site says August 4 - September 1 is Coaches' No Contact Period.
http://www.ohsaa.org/Sports/sb/girls/default.asp
http://www.ohsaa.org/Sports/sb/girls/default.asp
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Coaches should not be giving lessons to there own players for money, that is not something my A.D. would stand for and I feel the same!!
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I disagree. There are coaches out there who give lessons to the general public and the question is...
If that coach coaches a high school team, and a player from that team wants to sign up for the lessons that the coach offers to the general public, can the player do that? I think it is a valid question.
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Please refrain from introducing logic to the OHSAA - it will only confuse them more. (Yes, I'm mostly kidding)
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Too me its an unwritten law, you don't take money from your own kids!!
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If I do a clinic and one of my kids shows up, I just let Her in free!!
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No, your right about Novenber. I was thinking of a summer clinic.
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Become a travel ball coach . Then you can coach 4 of them year round .
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Even if you're a travel ball coach, wouldn't you still be restricted on when you can have contact with these 4 players?
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Travel ball coach can't coach them year-round. Can coach them in the summer, just as you can coach the rest of your girls in the summer.
H.S. coaches can't coach their own kids from Aug. 1 through late-Feb./early-March. Doesn't matter whether it's clinics, lessons or whatever else. I forget the exact rule on this, but I know I would certainly help them make skills videos in the fall, which I don't consider coaching. Even if the OHSAA considers that coaching, they can take a flying leap on that one, as getting videos done for the girls' college purposes is too important for their future to not get done.
H.S. coaches can't coach their own kids from Aug. 1 through late-Feb./early-March. Doesn't matter whether it's clinics, lessons or whatever else. I forget the exact rule on this, but I know I would certainly help them make skills videos in the fall, which I don't consider coaching. Even if the OHSAA considers that coaching, they can take a flying leap on that one, as getting videos done for the girls' college purposes is too important for their future to not get done.
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JoeA is correct--no contact until the official first day of practice. Read 4.3 below.
From OHSAA General Sports Regulations: http://www.ohsaa.org/sports/rglts/GenSportsReg08-09.pdf
4. Instructional Programs (Examples include but are not limited to camps, clinics, workshops,
practices, etc.)
4.1) These regulations apply to individual members of school squads or teams.
4.2) Instructional programs out of the season of the sport involving team play (any activity of individuals with more than one player opposing one player) may be attended only from June 1-July 31. There may be no instructional programs involving team play from August 1 through May 31 except during the season of the sport.
4.3) Individual skill instruction may be received in any sport by a squad member at any time in individual or group lessons. The coach may not conduct individual or group lessons for a squad member except during June 1-July 31 and during the season of the sport.
4.4) There is no limit on the number of players from the same school participating on the same team during the period June 1-July 31.
4.5) Athletes who violate the instructional program regulations may be penalized not to exceed one year of ineligibility for interscholastic athletics.
4.6) Interscholastic coaches in the individual sports of girls gymnastics, boys and girls swimming and diving, boys and girls golf, boys and girls tennis, and boys and girls bowling may coach athletes from the school where employed outside the interscholastic season of the sport.
4.7) Members of the coaching staff are limited to a total of 10 days in any combination of instructional program days and non-interscholastic days as specified in Bylaw 10-3-6.
4.8) Any coach who violates any of the instructional program regulations may be prohibited from involvement for one calendar year in any instructional programs with athletes from the school where employed.
4.9) It is not necessary for instructional programs to be registered, sanctioned or approved by the OHSAA, but schools are responsible for enforcing the regulations.
4.10) Mandatory attendance at instructional programs is not permitted. A coach, paid or unpaid, violates this provision when the coach suggests or in any way implies that a student?s chance to be selected for an interscholastic squad is contingent upon participation in an instructional program.
4.11) Squad members may be used for out-of-season demonstration purposes only if approved in advance by the Commissioner?s office.
From OHSAA General Sports Regulations: http://www.ohsaa.org/sports/rglts/GenSportsReg08-09.pdf
4. Instructional Programs (Examples include but are not limited to camps, clinics, workshops,
practices, etc.)
4.1) These regulations apply to individual members of school squads or teams.
4.2) Instructional programs out of the season of the sport involving team play (any activity of individuals with more than one player opposing one player) may be attended only from June 1-July 31. There may be no instructional programs involving team play from August 1 through May 31 except during the season of the sport.
4.3) Individual skill instruction may be received in any sport by a squad member at any time in individual or group lessons. The coach may not conduct individual or group lessons for a squad member except during June 1-July 31 and during the season of the sport.
4.4) There is no limit on the number of players from the same school participating on the same team during the period June 1-July 31.
4.5) Athletes who violate the instructional program regulations may be penalized not to exceed one year of ineligibility for interscholastic athletics.
4.6) Interscholastic coaches in the individual sports of girls gymnastics, boys and girls swimming and diving, boys and girls golf, boys and girls tennis, and boys and girls bowling may coach athletes from the school where employed outside the interscholastic season of the sport.
4.7) Members of the coaching staff are limited to a total of 10 days in any combination of instructional program days and non-interscholastic days as specified in Bylaw 10-3-6.
4.8) Any coach who violates any of the instructional program regulations may be prohibited from involvement for one calendar year in any instructional programs with athletes from the school where employed.
4.9) It is not necessary for instructional programs to be registered, sanctioned or approved by the OHSAA, but schools are responsible for enforcing the regulations.
4.10) Mandatory attendance at instructional programs is not permitted. A coach, paid or unpaid, violates this provision when the coach suggests or in any way implies that a student?s chance to be selected for an interscholastic squad is contingent upon participation in an instructional program.
4.11) Squad members may be used for out-of-season demonstration purposes only if approved in advance by the Commissioner?s office.
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The only way you could get lessons from your coach would be during the summer, and that would count as one of the coach's 10 contact days.
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How much can a high school coach speak with you during a conditioning workout? They may not be coaching, but if there is a question, like hitting can it be answered by the coach?
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No. I specifically posed this question to the OHSAA in the past.
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Stupid rule; how do you get better? Everyone will say workout on your own, go take
private lessons etc., but I can't afford private lessons, and I already have a coach that should be able to do more than 4 months out of the year
private lessons etc., but I can't afford private lessons, and I already have a coach that should be able to do more than 4 months out of the year
