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• Aug 31, 2009

• #1

When a batter reaches base safely because of an error or fielders choice how is it scored for batting avg stats? To be specific: runners on 1st and 2nd with 2 outs. Batter hits high pop up to short stop, girl on 2nd does not run (even though she was told "2 outs run on contact"). Short stop drops the ball (error) and runner on 2nd runs, girl from 1st is already to 2nd and batter is already to 1st. Shortstop picks up ball and tags girl running to 3rd, inning over. Does it count as a base hit for the batter or is it a non at bat because of the error? Just curious as I am trying to keep dd batting avg through fall ball. Thanks.

 

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• Aug 31, 2009

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The AB counts and should be scored an error. In the example you gave the batter shouldn't get credit for a hit since the shortstop had an error playing the ball. Any subsequent outs made after the error doesn't suddenly turn the misplayed popup a hit.

 

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• Aug 31, 2009

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no the batter does not get a hit - she gets a reached on error ROE it counts as an AB - in her on base percentage but not as a hit

 

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• Aug 31, 2009

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ROE should not improve one's OBP. OBP is calculated by the following formula...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On-base_percentage

 

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• Aug 31, 2009

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I say it's a fielders choice since there were two outs and the third out was achieved on the batted ball. Error or not the runner from 2nd never made it to 3rd before being tagged. Just because the runners are standing on 1st and 2nd does not matter, the error resulted in a continuous play tagging the runner out going to 3rd for a fielders choice. No Error because the runner at 1st was never safe due to continuation of the play ending the inning.

 

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• Aug 31, 2009

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Error or Fielders Choice, either way the batter/runner at first base just lowered her batting average.

In the situation you described, if the SS had an easy play on the ball and just dropped it, score an error on the SS, and a putout on the runner advancing to third. Mental mistakes on baserunning don't count for anything, sorry.

If the SS was not making a routine play and dropped the ball you would then have a fielders choice on the putout of the runner going to third. Once again mental baserunning mistakes can't be figured into the situation.

 

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• Sep 1, 2009

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Thanks for the responses.
Cshilt, I never knew there was a formula for OBP. I just assumed it was the number of times you safely got on base divided by total at bats. Guess it is a little more sophisticted than that. One more question. In order for it to be considered a sac fly I assume that the runner you were trying to advance had to actually advance? For instance - 1 out runner on 3rd, batter lifts long fly ball to deep center. Instead of waiting at 3rd for tag the runner goes halfway home and waits to see if ball is caught. It was caught and she had to go back to 3rd with no time to retag and score. This would not be considered a sac fly correct?

 

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• Sep 1, 2009

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Daddy O said:

One more question. In order for it to be considered a sac fly I assume that the runner you were trying to advance had to actually advance? For instance - 1 out runner on 3rd, batter lifts long fly ball to deep center. Instead of waiting at 3rd for tag the runner goes halfway home and waits to see if ball is caught. It was caught and she had to go back to 3rd with no time to retag and score. This would not be considered a sac fly correct?

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Correct...No sac. fly, runners need to advance safely for a sac. to be awarded.