What player is more valuable to a team.

punchout said:

I will be the first to say a very good catcher is invaluable. However there are a lot more capable catchers around there there are capable pitchers. Do not misunderstand what I am about to say, because I truely do love and appreciate great catchers. There is more talent involved in properly throwing a ball than there is catching a ball that is properly thrown. Period.
Most accomplished pitchers will throw a very catchable ball 98% of the time. Sure there is more to catching than catching a ball. But without a pitcher who can get batters to swing at the pitchers pitch on a consistant basis, defense is worthless.

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rdelawder said:

Pick your first player from the studs listed below, if someone would set up a poll it would be easy to determine the winner. Keep in mind YOUR remaining team will be stacked with 16 yr old recreation players.

1. Jenny Finch-P
2. Natasha Watley-SS
3. Crystal Bustos-3B
4. Jessica Mendoza-OF
5. Stacy Nuveman-C

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Hilliarddad3 said:

You are also talking about pitchers pitching skills.. 60% of them can't make a throw to first base if they had to field it... They focus so much on pitches, they forget defense has to be played....

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sad627 said:

Well that goes for college pitchers to. Plus, I have seen catchers miss throw to anyone of the bases. Lets just face it, All the positions are important for any number of reasons. To make one more important than the rest, IMO, is foolish. ;&

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rdelawder said:

Pick your first player from the studs listed below, if someone would set up a poll it would be easy to determine the winner. Keep in mind YOUR remaining team will be stacked with 16 yr old recreation players.

1. Jenny Finch-P
2. Natasha Watley-SS
3. Crystal Bustos-3B
4. Jessica Mendoza-OF
5. Stacy Nuveman-C

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punchout said:

AAAAHHHHH - I am biting my tongue on this one. If every "capable Pitcher - " More Talent at throwing then Catching " If thats the case we should be seeing Jenny Finch clones at every tournament. Yet we do not ..... Why is that ....?

I really question your STAS !! 98% catchable - define catchable - Oh thats right anyhting that a capable catcher can catch .....

Catchers do more then catch balls - a good one calls the game for the Pitcher, remembers what works against each batter and last but not least .......

According to your stats "capable catcher" knows the remaining 2% of the pitches that Pitcher is NOT throwing well that day.

I would only wish on any given Day the Pitcher is throwing 98% effective pitches. Hell you would only need the catcher to show up and only catch the 3rd strike for every batter.

As my early posts mention, I will favor the catcher because my DD is a catcher. But like I stated - all 9 will play a part in any given game and or time.

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Ok where do I start. I did not say more talent ("AT") pitcher than at catcher. I said there is more talent involved in properly throwing a ball than there is in catching a properly thrown ball. I guess a better word for talent would have been skill. Example. It is tougher to throw a curve than it is to catch one. 98 percent referes to an ACCOMPLISHED pitcher. DD had 9 wild pitches in 4 years of high school. (over 1,000 K`s)
For your information DD won with both, very good catchers behind the plate and average at best catchers behind the plate. Get off your high horse, it is not the catchers who make the huge bucks in Pro Baseball, because they understand you are no where without pitching. You can survive with an average catcher, but you will get rocked with an average pitcher.. Now that being said, I would prefer to have an accomplished catcher behind the plate, they keep base runners at bay, sometimes call the games and gives a pitcher more confidence. Please dont lecture me on what a catcher does, 12 years of fastpitch experiance as a pitchers dad, I have experienced catchers from rec ball all the way up to All Big Ten catchers catching my kid. I know what they do and I know the difference between a bad catcher, an average catcher, and a great catcher.(and their value)

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FstPtchctchrdad said:

"As my early posts mention, I will favor the catcher because my DD is a catcher. But like I stated - all 9 will play a part in any given game and or time "

the key word is favor not lecture, Everyone has an opinion, Its when you post facts, stats , percenatges based out of nowhere.

I suggest "you get off your high horse"

and show some real respect and dignity to the girls who caught for your daughter, fielded for your daughter and or hit scoring runs for your daughter. I am sure if you asked her she would tell you how they saved / helped her get her where she is. I am sure if you took this post to her current team they would not appreciate how you trivialize their talents.

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Momto77's said:

Silly Subject!

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