What player is more valuable to a team.

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Before everyone gets convinced that all you need is an outstanding pitcher, consider this:

1.) There are relatively few "outstanding" pitchers out there.

2.) What happens when you're on offense? If nobody can hit, or run the bases effectively, it's still tied at 0-0 at the end of 7.

3.) A Lights Out pitcher won't play for you if you don't have a supporting cast.

4.) A core of "well rounded" players usually results in harmony in the dugout. (which makes things easier for everyone concerned)
 
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Staying effective on the mound requires year around work and dedication! My hats off to all players who work hard to better their skills; especially the pitchers(and the catchers who are willing to catch them).
 
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DD's first pitching instructor always said that every pitcher, sooner or later, owes the outfielders french fries after a game for saving the pitcher's b u t t. How humbling and true...
That probably goes for every position. We all know this is a team game, to think otherwise is unwise. However, when the pitcher gets rocked, they do not take out the catcher or short stop. I remember a Hilliard team back in the early 2000`s who had a slow drop ball pitcher. She only had @ 50 strike outs for the season, but the defense behind her was as good as I have ever seen on a high school team. She made hitters hit grounders and weak liners and the defense took care of the rest. Her ERA was great, her wins were a lot and she made All State. Had that same pitcher been on an average defesive team, she would have lost many games and received no post season awards. This was an odd and very strange team. One where the defense covered for the pitcher and they still were a great team. Normally, especially in high school, a really good pitcher can hide all kinds of defensive weaknesses. This pitcher was good at getting batters to hit a lot of ground balls(like a drop ball pitcher can do) but her speed was probably just over 50, so she had few K`s. What a team that was. They hit the ball too.
 
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I love Stud Catchers......... A great catcher can make a pitcher look really good. Plus most catchers can play other positions also. Defense Defense Defense.... Wins Championships. EH Klump!!!
 
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You're talking my language Deer Jerkey!!! Gotta love the stud catchers and the kicking D!!
 
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Lol! Good one! This post and all the responses are cracking me up! All the strong opinions! I think 2nd base is most important...no, I'm really just kidding, last time I checked this was a TEAM Sport! And no one can win it alone!!! Every single hitter is important as well as fielders, u need offense AND defense to WIN games!

Silly Subject!

As always Toni you break it down. And i completely agree...
 
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without offensive and defensive support i,d say pitchers would loose alot of confidence and wins , just dont see many perfect games.
 
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As a pitcher's dad I'll say the pitcher too, but you absolutely need the supporting cast, and especially the catcher, to make a complete package. My DD is fortunate to have that stud catcher, plus the other solid defenders.
 
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Depends on the age of the team. 10u pitcher most important , you can DH for her if needed. If they can't hit it you don't need awesome defense. 12u good catcher with arm. by 14u you should have a well rounded team with team conformity, confidence and the team should become most valuable.
 
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Before everyone gets convinced that all you need is an outstanding pitcher, consider this:

1.) There are relatively few "outstanding" pitchers out there.

2.) What happens when you're on offense? If nobody can hit, or run the bases effectively, it's still tied at 0-0 at the end of 7.

3.) A Lights Out pitcher won't play for you if you don't have a supporting cast.

4.) A core of "well rounded" players usually results in harmony in the dugout. (which makes things easier for everyone concerned)

This honestly makes the most sense....On DD team they have 4 pitchers prob 5 or 6 that "can" pitch the thing is that every player can play pretty much any position and all can either hit/bunt/drag/ or slap. You are all gonna call me crazy but on this team there is virtualy NO drama because of that. They all show up for the same purpose..... to play softball and thats it. If I were a coach(which I used to be, I prefer to watch now its more enjoyable) I would want the player that if I told her to stand on her head in the outfield she wouldn't ask why. but thats just me..........
 
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This honestly makes the most sense....On DD team they have 4 pitchers prob 5 or 6 that "can" pitch the thing is that every player can play pretty much any position and all can either hit/bunt/drag/ or slap. You are all gonna call me crazy but on this team there is virtualy NO drama because of that. They all show up for the same purpose..... to play softball and thats it. If I were a coach(which I used to be, I prefer to watch now its more enjoyable) I would want the player that if I told her to stand on her head in the outfield she wouldn't ask why. but thats just me..........

Good luck finding a teenage girl that wouldnt ask WHY.......... I cant think of any...
 
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The most valuable player on a team is the weakest one you have in the lineup. If she is strong, your team is strong - if she is weak - the ball will find her at the critical time and she will be the one at the plate in the bottom of the 7th with the game on the line. Make her and better player and you make your team that much better.

This winter we identified the 2 'weakest' hitters on our team and worked them more than any other player in the cages ... this spring, they are 2 of the top hitters on our team and we have no more 'dead-spots' in the line-up...

Previously, we found that we tended to work our top players more but the return was marginal - (they just got incrementally better) - when we worked the girls from the bottom up, they improved dramatically and the return to the team on their improvement was huge.

Last weekend - coach from the Nitro came over to me and told me to make sure I tell one player and her parents that she has improved 1000% from last year .. that she has become a player ... very cool of him and it made her day.
 
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Speed and small ball will grow in importance , a dominate pitcher is still of #1 importance, but the move back 3 feet, decreases strike outs, puts more balls in play and after what I seen last year and this fall, the move is turning very good pitchers into avg. Pitchers and the truely gifted remained dominate.
 
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My dd doesn't have to make the move to 43 until next year, but has been throwing 43 in lessons. I, after watching her, think she throws harder and better from 43 feet. Time will tell when she is actually throwing to batters at that distance, but for now it doesn't seem to have hurt her at all.

As far as pitchers being the most important, I think the team as a whole better be good the older they get! I have seen teams this year with great pitching, but not so good defense. All of a sudden the other players become more important.
 
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I'm still sticking with the pitcher-catcher combo. But also have to agree with daddo, you need a strong supporting cast. It's rare to see a young pitcher tell her team that she'll pull them through.
 

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