When is enough enough?????

default · Jun 17, 2010

How long does it take an AD or School Administrators to make a change in coaches?

Situation: A local high school program has had 5 losing seasons (1 to 4 wins a year) and nothing is done about possible coaching change. I have watched this team plpay and they appear to have solid .500 potential but do not know how to defend a bunt nor do they even use relays on throws that need them.

Opinions?

default · Jun 17, 2010

How long does it take an AD or School Administrators to make a change in coaches?

1.Long enough that young ladies decide they no longer want to play for their high school if they are always on the losing end and your school is no longer able to field a team.

2.The parents start to get very aggressive about going to the school administrators.

P.S. Be very careful about #2 You could end up worse off.;&

default · Jun 17, 2010

AD's are not interested in winning, they are worried about keeping the politicaly connected and influential parents happy. When a coach desides to win they will undoubtedly have to hurt the feelings of the well connected children, in turn the parents of these children will complain to the AD instead of teaching their children to work harder if they want to play. Our coach was just forced to resign after the first winning season in many years. Aparently our AD would rather have an after school social club than a competative softball team.

default · Jun 18, 2010

WALLY said:
AD's are not interested in winning, they are worried about keeping the politicaly connected and influential parents happy. When a coach desides to win they will undoubtedly have to hurt the feelings of the well connected children, in turn the parents of these children will complain to the AD instead of teaching their children to work harder if they want to play. Our coach was just forced to resign after the first winning season in many years. Aparently our AD would rather have an after school social club than a competative softball team.

Case & Point!

default · Sep 14, 2010

WALLY said:
AD's are not interested in winning, they are worried about keeping the politicaly connected and influential parents happy. When a coach desides to win they will undoubtedly have to hurt the feelings of the well connected children, in turn the parents of these children will complain to the AD instead of teaching their children to work harder if they want to play. Our coach was just forced to resign after the first winning season in many years. Aparently our AD would rather have an after school social club than a competative softball team.

You are absolutely correct!!!!!!! We have the same thing happening at our school. Great coach on the right track with a solid line up, and the parents of those who have kids that are clearly 10, 11, and 12th player on the varsity, which is questionable that they shouldn't have been JV players are trying their best to get the coach fired! It absolutely blows my mind how parents of those kids will openly hope that someone plays bad so their kids will get in. They would be happy to go 0-27 as long as their little babies got to play every inning of every game in the position that THEY want them to play in. Might as well turn our HS program into a rec program and just rotate them every inning, that way everyone would get a chance to pitch. What a joke some of these parents are.:lmao:

default · Sep 15, 2010

buckncm said:
You are absolutely correct!!!!!!! We have the same thing happening at our school. Great coach on the right track with a solid line up, and the parents of those who have kids that are clearly 10, 11, and 12th player on the varsity, which is questionable that they shouldn't have been JV players are trying their best to get the coach fired! It absolutely blows my mind how parents of those kids will openly hope that someone plays bad so their kids will get in. They would be happy to go 0-27 as long as their little babies got to play every inning of every game in the position that THEY want them to play in. Might as well turn our HS program into a rec program and just rotate them every inning, that way everyone would get a chance to pitch. What a joke some of these parents are.:lmao:

Most high school programs I am familiar with ARE rec programs, or may as well be. Admin, parents, alumni, and most players all say they want to want to win, but there is a large element that look at softball as just another opportunity for the girls to "do something fun together." When softball becomes a revenue generating sport, than it will receive the attention it deserves. Will any one of us live long enough to see that?

default · Sep 16, 2010

18over said:
Most high school programs I am familiar with ARE rec programs, or may as well be. Admin, parents, alumni, and most players all say they want to want to win, but there is a large element that look at softball as just another opportunity for the girls to "do something fun together." When softball becomes a revenue generating sport, than it will receive the attention it deserves. Will any one of us live long enough to see that?

From what I've notice HS softball is starting to look more and more like an ASA tournament team. Every team in our conference including us have 4 to 6 ASA players on it. Thats the problem with these whinny parents who's kids have fallen behind because of their lack of work. They act like their daughters are entitled to something since they played for the past 2 yrs on a HS rec team like you spoke of, only to find that the game, and girls that work hard have passed their DD's up.

default · Sep 17, 2010

buckncm said:
They would be happy to go 0-27 as long as their little babies got to play every inning of every game in the position that THEY want them to play in.

Tha sad part is this mentality is not only limitted to Rec and High School. This is also happening on tournament teams too.

default · Sep 17, 2010

cjs said:
Tha sad part is this mentality is not only limitted to Rec and High School. This is also happening on tournament teams too.

If that's happening in tourney teams then I would suggest looking at the dynamic make up of the team before even trying out. My DD tourney teams coach does not have a daughter playing on the team, and that's what you want. The result is over the last 2 summers this team is 62-8 with no drama. Everyone knows their role and that includes the parents. When you're winning and averaging less than 1 error per game, a parent would look pretty stupid asking why there dd is playing cf instead of ss

default · Sep 17, 2010

buckncm said:
From what I've notice HS softball is starting to look more and more like an ASA tournament team. Every team in our conference including us have 4 to 6 ASA players on it. Thats the problem with these whinny parents who's kids have fallen behind because of their lack of work. They act like their daughters are entitled to something since they played for the past 2 yrs on a HS rec team like you spoke of, only to find that the game, and girls that work hard have passed their DD's up.

Our high school will becomes that as well. upper classmen are worried because the this year's freshman class has at least 7 ASA players on it.Our 7th and 8th grade have just as many. It making the upper classmen work. So all in all, it's benefitting the program.

default · Sep 30, 2010

""AD's are not interested in winning, they are worried about keeping the politicaly connected and influential parents happy""

Funny but sometimes true

When is enough enough?????

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