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Just got CF5 this Spring......so basically that any non-wooden bat is now illegal?????

I will not play USSSA just on principal if that is the case. Basically, probably don't have any bats on the team with this marking.....
I could see them retesting & saying certain older bats no longer comply, but to say everyone HAS to buy a new bat now or not play is bogus IMO...

 

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WOW Where at ?

South Florida, Phoenix area, western TN, and pockets of the midwest (Kansas, Nebraska) are areas I am told are predominantly USSSA with little or no ASA presence. It is also my understanding that NSA is king in Indiana with not much going in the way of ASA.

 

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South Florida, Phoenix area, western TN, and pockets of the midwest (Kansas, Nebraska) are areas I am told are predominantly USSSA with little or no ASA presence. It is also my understanding that NSA is king in Indiana with not much going in the way of ASA.

Just funny how different area's have different sanctioning bodies. Here USSSA is very weak and ASA rules the roost. NSA used to be strong till they messed that up.

 

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Was not looking close enough last night. Think all were illegal this month & not next September.
So not as bad......But while most will buy new bat within the next year - Don't tell me it is a SAFETY issue like I just heard from one TD!!!!!!
It has a lot to do about $$$$ - cause if a girl wants to swing an old aluminum bat that is in great condition, it is about somebody making sure the $$$ is moving. Now this is a great way to get the economy rolling...

Just got CF5 this Spring......so basically that any non-wooden bat is now illegal?????

I will not play USSSA just on principal if that is the case. Basically, probably don't have any bats on the team with this marking.....
I could see them retesting & saying certain older bats no longer comply, but to say everyone HAS to buy a new bat now or not play is bogus IMO...

 

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I'll ask again--does anyone know what ASA or NSA are planning for 2013 with their bat standards--is it on their annual convention agendas?

I'll agree that it doesn't make sense not to be able to use a perfectly good bat. But, on the other side, there are lots of cheaters out there who shave/alter their bats, and they are very good at not getting caught. Again I don't have the details behind the new standards but would think the liability insurers are playing a hand because of lawsuits. So, the driver could be safety. I have my doubts about the sticker issue as causing a delay--IMO it is probably more a manufacturing issue--- a lot of engineering goes into bat design and all the production lines are re-tooled and new materials have to be procured and stocked, etc

Hopefully someone will come clean and explain all this or else it certainly puts the USSSA TDs in Ohio in a very vulnerable position.

 

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The same thing happened years ago with ASA. We were at the Men's Open ASA Nationals, and every team had to contact their sponsor to have new, legal bats, sent in just so they could play. We were an Easton team, and between 14 guys, had 1 bat that was legal. The morning of opening day, the hotel lobby was full of bat boxes for each team. It was an awesome site LOL! That hasn't stopped people from playing ASA though. It ****s, but it's happened before.

 

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I'll ask again--does anyone know what ASA or NSA are planning for 2013 with their bat standards--is it on their annual convention agendas?

I'll agree that it doesn't make sense not to be able to use a perfectly good bat. But, on the other side, there are lots of cheaters out there who shave/alter their bats, and they are very good at not getting caught. Again I don't have the details behind the new standards but would think the liability insurers are playing a hand because of lawsuits. So, the driver could be safety. I have my doubts about the sticker issue as causing a delay--IMO it is probably more a manufacturing issue--- a lot of engineering goes into bat design and all the production lines are re-tooled and new materials have to be procured and stocked, etc

Hopefully someone will come clean and explain all this or else it certainly puts the USSSA TDs in Ohio in a very vulnerable position.

According to USSSA there are some standards that will change with the new sticker. The biggest thing is that the bats should not exceed the 1.20 BPF over their lifetime and not be able to be altered. The bats are supposed to show damage or become unusable if they exceed the standards or are altered. If you see longball00's comments I think this is more driven by the men's game. ASA and NSA don't have to do anything yet. They can just ban bats that fail those standards. Easy for ASA because their 98mph bbs standard is tougher anyway.

http://www.ilusssa.com/Umpire Graphics/Bat Rule_SP.pdf

http://www.ilusssa.com/Fastpitch Graphics/2012 Rule Changes with comments.pdf

 

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u trip blows , at least in ohio anyway.

 

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u trip blows , at least in ohio anyway.

Dan, How do you really feel, and yes it is week in our state and most of the country.

 

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Thanks to all who replied to this thread. I have avoided a costly mistake and hopefully some others will, too.
I knew a lot of you don't like USSSA, but that is how it has worked out for my dd. We will play some usssa and some asa, maybe even an nsa. We can't afford to have a bat in the bag for every set of rules, so we have to go with the strictest. It really does stink that so many people will have bats that are illegal, at least part of the time. Luckily, my daughter is still growing and it's time for a new bat anyway. NOW, what do we do with all of the illegal bats? I don't think a bonfire is possible with composite, is it?

 

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Thanks to all who replied to this thread. I have avoided a costly mistake and hopefully some others will, too.
I knew a lot of you don't like USSSA, but that is how it has worked out for my dd. We will play some usssa and some asa, maybe even an nsa. We can't afford to have a bat in the bag for every set of rules, so we have to go with the strictest. It really does stink that so many people will have bats that are illegal, at least part of the time. Luckily, my daughter is still growing and it's time for a new bat anyway. NOW, what do we do with all of the illegal bats? I don't think a bonfire is possible with composite, is it?

Are you kidding? Keep all old bats. They can be used for cage work (dimple balls), various hitting drills, and if nothing else, converted to home-made Whip Hits.

 

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Illiegal in Utrip maybe, but can still be leagal in NSA/ASA. If you don't want to keep them sell them to people who don't play USSSA. What do you got?

 

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Illiegal in Utrip maybe, but can still be leagal in NSA/ASA. If you don't want to keep them sell them to people who don't play USSSA. What do you got?

I'd like to see what you have as well lol

 

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Before buying/selling bats, I would wait until the national conventions of ASA, USSA, and NSA are over later this year--at that time the bat standards should be clear for all the sanctioning bodies.

 

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Just kidding about the bonfire.