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It's not cool to point to one kid as the excuse for the loss when your team scored zero points. Len

My girls are old school and they can handle losing. If it it theirs to shoulder, they do and it was. With as successful of a season they had this year, they learned last night you have to stay in it until the fat lady sings and they blinked in that 8th inning. We didn't score any runs but neither had their opponent, so it was their job to keep us in the game. They have a nasty taste in their mouths right now, but without it, winning isn't nearly as sweet...just hate it for the seniors who worked so hard and the season showed it...

 

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The point is that it is not real cool to place a loss on one person's shoulders, there are usually multiple plays, hitting opportunities, bunts, etc., that can win games earlier anyway. Not even "Pro" teams allow coaches and players to single out the "goat" of the night. Totally cool for the individual to "own up" as a way of picking the others up though. I was thinking that maybe the Catcher is your dd or something? Hopefully, she will learn and grow with the experience, rather than learn to point fingers at somebody else next time.

My words to your Catcher ... congrats on a great season, and going to "war" for your team in a tough position. THANK YOU.

My girls are old school and they can handle losing. If it it theirs to shoulder, they do and it was. With as successful of a season they had this year, they learned last night you have to stay in it until the fat lady sings and they blinked in that 8th inning. We didn't score any runs but neither had their opponent, so it was their job to keep us in the game. They have a nasty taste in their mouths right now, but without it, winning isn't nearly as sweet...just hate it for the seniors who worked so hard and the season showed it...

 

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rather than learn to point fingers at somebody else next time

Hmmm...the only finger pointing is to herself...The point was she is strong enough to accept and carry the burden of responsibility, rather than blame it on a blown call or some other ridiculous reason...she and her pitcher made a bad decision, she failed to execute on the same batter/runner...result is a loss, plain and simple...makes me proud she takes it on a loss but doesn't on a win...about the opposite of a lot of posters I read on here...

 

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Hmmm...the only finger pointing is to herself...The point was she is strong enough to accept and carry the burden of responsibility, rather than blame it on a blown call or some other ridiculous reason...she and her pitcher made a bad decision, she failed to execute on the same batter/runner...result is a loss, plain and simple...makes me proud she takes it on a loss but doesn't on a win...about the opposite of a lot of posters I read on here...

It sure doesn't help that you continue to put it on her! No excuse to call out one girl on a public forum. If your seniors were good enough to win they would have found a way to overcome a bad play. You have to score to win..Period.

 

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Well, just trying to be helpful, honestly ... softball will likely be a short term thing in nearly ALL of these girls/ladies' lives, and we aim to use it to teach about life, and build confidence & character ... and good memories, as a team. I would want her remembering it as an epic game, that she was a part of rather than stewing as a failure for the rest of her life, after softball. You know her and the team, overall, way better than I, of course. Good luck going forward!!

Hmmm...the only finger pointing is to herself...The point was she is strong enough to accept and carry the burden of responsibility, rather than blame it on a blown call or some other ridiculous reason...she and her pitcher made a bad decision, she failed to execute on the same batter/runner...result is a loss, plain and simple...makes me proud she takes it on a loss but doesn't on a win...about the opposite of a lot of posters I read on here...

 

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yeh, yeh, yeh...I guess everyone who played should get a "Participation Medal" too?:lmao: Game is over, on to 5/12 scores - hopefully!! egads!

 

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Your such a cry baby...period

 

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Your such a cry baby...period

:lmao:

 

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elks could not touch clutter tonite and when we did the clever defense setup in outfield took away 4-5 hits easily. Our defense held them to 7 scoreless innings then a few mistakes by our catcher and they score 2 unanswered runs and that's the season. Feel bad for the seniors having to go out like that on some rookie mistakes after battling so hard. Good luck to northmont and all the other gwoc teams still in it!!

The only fingerpointing was to herself? Please see bolded sentence above. You blamed the catcher for the loss and ending your team's season. In subsequent posts we find out...from you...that the the young lady catching called the wrong pitch on an 0-2 count to the #9 batter, could not throw the runner out at 2nd, and could not hold onto the ball on a sqeeze play. Later on you do blame the pitcher along with the catcher for the "badly called" and "badly placed" pitch.

The truth of the matter is that you split with Northmont during the regular season and they outscored you 6-3 in those 2 games. This was not a guaranteed win for your team. You probably knew that you had to manufacture runs in order to beat them and get in their head.

A couple of posters on here claim that the catcher might not have been the problem on the squeeze play. An 0-2 pitch should not be anywhere near the hitting zone, and my guess is that it was not the only mistake pitch made; it just happened at a bad time. Your players tried to win. Any mistake was not made on purpose. It just sounds like Northmont's execution was more successful. Be proud of your team.....it looks like they did well this year in a tough conference.

Len

 

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Just a guess,, but centerville.. your daughter is catcher here??? I know the feelings here, but reading your posts I see the fault in our actions... Thanks!!

I feel you though.. Good luck maybe see you or meet you over summer!

 

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The only fingerpointing was to herself? Please see bolded sentence above. You blamed the catcher for the loss and ending your team's season. In subsequent posts we find out...from you...that the the young lady catching called the wrong pitch on an 0-2 count to the #9 batter, could not throw the runner out at 2nd, and could not hold onto the ball on a sqeeze play. Later on you do blame the pitcher along with the catcher for the "badly called" and "badly placed" pitch.

The truth of the matter is that you split with Northmont during the regular season and they outscored you 6-3 in those 2 games. This was not a guaranteed win for your team. You probably knew that you had to manufacture runs in order to beat them and get in their head.

A couple of posters on here claim that the catcher might not have been the problem on the squeeze play. An 0-2 pitch should not be anywhere near the hitting zone, and my guess is that it was not the only mistake pitch made; it just happened at a bad time. Your players tried to win. Any mistake was not made on purpose. It just sounds like Northmont's execution was more successful. Be proud of your team.....it looks like they did well this year in a tough conference.

Len

I agree with you Len. This sounds incredibly sad for a coach/parent to be calling out a specific player in a 2 - 0 game.

Where are the complaints about NOT hitting the ball or inopportune strikeouts by the ELKS 9 batters? It's a WE sport not SHE and if the catcher is your daughter, I bet that was an all american ride home with you.

She will learn more from those mistakes than she ever will with always making the right plays. The are VERY few people in this world that understand how difficult the position of catcher is. If you take on the role you are better than 95% of the players on the field.

Second guessing and placing blame will only deter the learning process and make already fragile psyche even worse. In times of doubt you as a parent should be encouraging versus tearing her down.

You should seriously count up how many perfect days you had when you were 15 or 16. Think real hard.

 

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Just a guess,, but centerville.. your daughter is catcher here??? I know the feelings here, but reading your posts I see the fault in our actions... Thanks!!

I feel you though.. Good luck maybe see you or meet you over summer!

If I had to take a guess it is the pitcher....

Len

 

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You should seriously count up how many perfect days you had when you were 15 or 16. Think real hard.

Lol....I don't remember much of anything when I was 15 or 16.....perfect or imperfect. I just remember girls and how good they looked.
:lmao::lmao::lmao:

Len

 

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@Lenski:

If I had to guess, it would be both the catcher and pitcher, but I am pretty darn sure that it is at least the catcher. Centerville FP is clearly proud of the catcher and privy to how she has reacted to the loss. I think that his references to "old school" shows he feels a need to step up and say that the catcher bears responsibility for the loss and he also indicates that catcher herself understands that.

Where I agree with those criticizing Centerville FP is that the team as a whole could have been more productive AND that emphasizing the errors of the catcher run the risk that she won't be able to simply learn from the experience and move on. Just because a player appears to have total control over the mental side of the game and appears to be capable of taking responsibility for her mistakes, doesn't mean we should be playing Russian roulette by testing how much blame she can take without cracking.

 

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Gonna place the blame on one player after your own team had probably close to 30 at bats???

I could never do it.

 

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Oh my goodness the posters on here are schizophrenic! Pitcher and Catcher are both mine, and they both made mistakes in the 8th inning that ultimately ended the game. Calling my daughter out? You guys are being silly, if I said it was sad the game was decided by an illegal pitch everyone would be all over me for the kids not taking responsibility!! The main point of the whole thing was that the team held on for 7 innings and basically the game was decided by a couple plays that actually happened. Conjecture on what others could have/would have done is meaningless. Of course I am proud of her, she is no wallflower that blames everyone including the umpires for a loss. I would hope most of you OFC long timers would know how many more whiners there are on here than those who step up. So I wanted to brag on her a bit, because she will take more from a loss than a win almost every time, especially this one. The team gets credit when we win, not when we lose. If you can't pick up on that, you just don't get it.

 

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Just because a player appears to have total control over the mental side of the game and appears to be capable of taking responsibility for her mistakes, doesn't mean we should be playing Russian roulette by testing how much blame she can take without cracking.

CGS - she is a nut, but not one that will crack - she is the one that put one over the fence down at Sluggerfest at 11:30pm to keep our game going with you guys...

 

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Gonna place the blame on one player after your own team had probably close to 30 at bats??? I could never do it.

When my DD's had almost 8 of those at bats, you know it.

 

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I agree with you Len. This sounds incredibly sad for a coach/parent to be calling out a specific player in a 2 - 0 game.

What is sad is posters who think their opinion is meaningful when they know nothing of the people involved :lmao: You learn to be successful in life by dealing with disappointments sometimes and sometimes that makes you feel like **** and maybe sometimes that even motivates you to become better?!

 

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Let's just worry about 5/12 scores now...just like the games yesterday, it's over!! :yahoo: