A.S.A. Requirments

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Many have asked about the A.S.A. requirment of an ACE Certified coach on the bench and about having to have Insurance thru Bollinger Insurance Company. Here is the link on A.S.A. and what it says. I hope this helps.

http://www.softball.org/youth/index.asp
bottom of the page, last two

 

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Re: A.S.A. Requires

I have asked if the Ace certification vidoes are captioned for the hearing impaired and have been told that they do not provide captions. Do they know that they are required, by federal regulations, to provide videos with captions? If they do not meet those guidelines, I will have to ask JoeA to file a federal suit against ASA.

Without those captions, I cannot possibly receive ACE certification. I have been in contact with ASA and they promised to "get back with me" 2 months ago. If the season starts without a response, I will challenge them.

Joe... you game?

 

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When I talked with Rick Chone at the ASA HQs last week, I addressed the fact that no where on the ASA website was this issue addressed. He said that it was an oversight and he would work on getting the info posted to the websight. It apprears that he did. He also followed up by sending me an email with the same info that is now on the websight.

Rick Chone is the JO Director. He took the time to return my call and as you can see, he followed through. Thanks Rick.

Johnnies, we'll have to get them working on the closed caption issue now.

 

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In my opinion they need to put this whole ACE cert requirement off until next year. How many teams have registered for their tournaments for the summer and they had no idea of this "So called" requirement. If they publish the code and the 2009 changes without this requirement in it, they should stand by what was put out.

 

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In my opinion they need to put this whole ACE cert requirement off until next year. How many teams have registered for their tournaments for the summer and they had no idea of this "So called" requirement. If they publish the code and the 2009 changes without this requirement in it, they should stand by what was put out.

No argument from me on that.

 

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To get certified it takes about 1 to 2 hrs, then no more then 2 weeks to get your card. Not that big of a deal. But what about the insurance thing, I mean if a team had already gotten team insurance from somewhere else does this mean they still need to get it from Bollinger.

What if everyone else ie NSA, PONY, USSSA etc says you need insurance from their provider.

We mostly play only A.S.A tournaments so its not that big of a deal to me, but some teams play 3 tournaments each from the other sanctions.

 

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To get certified it takes about 1 to 2 hrs, then no more then 2 weeks to get your card. Not that big of a deal. But what about the insurance thing, I mean if a team had already gotten team insurance from somewhere else does this mean they still need to get it from Bollinger.

What if everyone else ie NSA, PONY, USSSA etc says you need insurance from their provider.

We mostly play only A.S.A tournaments so its not that big of a deal to me, but some teams play 3 tournaments each from the other sanctions.

The ACE insurance protects you as a coach, not the team. Let's say a parent decides to sue you because they felt you did not make the best decision prior to an injury to their child. The insurance via ACE will cover you up to the amount stated on the policy. I highly advise all coaches to read what the policy covers and what will void this insurance. **NOTE** one of the primary things they state is that you CANNOT have consumed alcohol within 12 hours prior to coaching.

Be your own best advocate as a coach and set your phone or watch to let you know 1/2 hour prior to the cut off time so you are always in compliance with the rules. I cannot tell you how many times I have seen coaches coach with less than 12 hours prior to a game. JMHO

 

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I agree.

I am refering to in the future, will teams have to get insurance from all 4 or 5 sanctions just to play in their tournaments. That would stink.

 

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Wildcat, I think you are going to see many coaches/organizations put a huge fuss up about this over the next six months. I also believe you will see a move by all affiliations to a unified front on the insurance/certifications requirements due to the current economic situation.

 

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Wildcat, I think you are going to see many coaches/organizations put a huge fuss up about this over the next six months. I also believe you will see a move by all affiliations to a unified front on the insurance/certifications requirements due to the current economic situation.

This would make to much sense for all sanctions to use one insurance. I do like Bollinger with the Player id cards.

 

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I read the information on the ASA website and it makes reference to "championship play" so does this rule about having ASA team insurance and ACE cert. only apply to Nationals or all tournaments?

 

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Nationals, or A.S.A./U.S.A. Championship play

 

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It is for any tournament that can advance you to the next level. I already bought our team insurance elsewhere. This is not cool. We split between ASA & NSA. I may pull from ASA. I will need to call Warren.

 

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Some associations are looking at Anti- Trust issues. I know USSSA is looking into it as we speak.

 

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It is for any tournament that can advance you to the next level. I already bought our team insurance elsewhere. This is not cool. We split between ASA & NSA. I may pull from ASA. I will need to call Warren.

Why would you buy elsewhere. I dont think you can get better then Bollinger. You get player id cards with pictures, and once you get ACE certified you get a 5 million dollar coverage. It will even pay for your lawyer if you need one.

 

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But that's not really the point. The point is that most coaches weren't aware of this until very recently. I don't argue that Bollinger is a good deal but the fact is alot of teams already have insurance from other sources (like NSA) and shouldn't be penalized by having to buy ASA insurance just to play in an ASA tourney. The other sanctions aren't doing that.

 

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Several points to answer some of your questions and/or concerns.

The Bollinger Insurance carries a $5M liability on all players / coaches who are registered. They increased this limit in 2008 from the $2M.

Not sure where in Cincy you are from or what program you are with Cogcoffee, but the Metro Cincinnati program held a meeting on the 30th of Dec to update coaches on all the ASA code / rule changes. In addition - the ACE certification 'requirement' was posted on our web site on the front page and is still there.

For teams in the Metro Cincy area that participate in the ACE Online Certification - a refund of your 'individual registration fees' that you paid with your sanction / insurance on the local level, will be credited and/or refunded to your team/organization. All you need to do is let me know when you have completed the certification.
( www.metrocincinnati-asa.com/JO )

Championship play are those tournaments that advance your team to the next level. This includes USA/ASA National Qualifiers, Regionals, State/Metro events.

If you have additional questions please feel free to email me at cincysoftball@fuse.net or call me at 513-741-4263

Patty

 

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Why would you buy elsewhere. I dont think you can get better then Bollinger. You get player id cards with pictures, and once you get ACE certified you get a 5 million dollar coverage. It will even pay for your lawyer if you need one.

It is just frustrating that everything has to be so complicated and back handed i guess. This is my 11th year of coaching and the last two have been work trying to deal with the sanctioning bodies.

 

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But that's not really the point. The point is that most coaches weren't aware of this until very recently. I don't argue that Bollinger is a good deal but the fact is alot of teams already have insurance from other sources (like NSA) and shouldn't be penalized by having to buy ASA insurance just to play in an ASA tourney. The other sanctions aren't doing that.

That is exactly my point. It is another hoop to jump thru and it gets old.

 

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So my question is if we are only doing three ASA tournaments and they are the Pittsburgh Power's Battle of the Burg, The Harrisburg, PA College Showcase and let's say the Dawg Daze tourney at Cedar Point, do weed need to have Bollinger? We have no desire to attend nationals, they are way over rated and too expensive.