Indoor Tournament ALL NIGHT TOURNAMENT

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Couple of clarifications on the rules please.

Does the drop dead time limit revert back to last complete inning or is it whoever is ahead at the one hr. mark?

Also, what does a one inning sudden death tie breaker mean. It said first team to score wins. Surely the home team has a chance to bat correct?

There are some unique rules being put in for this tournament. as a play on our team name, we are incorporating "Sudden Death" rules. Innings DO NOT revert back to the last complete inning. Also, the "Sudden Death" tie-breaker will be complete when a team scores. A lot rests on the coin flips, AKA.
SUDDEN DEATH!

 

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???? Huge (unfair) advantage for the VISITING team???? ?...A lot rests on the coin flip?????? That just sounds weird.

BUT....If you know this going in.....??

 

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There is actually a coin flip after the time limit. The team that scored the first run in the game, gets to call.

 

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???? Huge (unfair) advantage for the VISITING team???? ?...A lot rests on the coin flip?????? That just sounds weird.

BUT....If you know this going in.....??

Ringer,
I'm not sure you understand. The only team with the advantage is the team that scores first. This will only be an advantage if the game were to be tied when time expires. ?Other than that, both teams have 60 minutes to win the ball game.

 

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My mistake, I was under the assumption that the home team wouldn't be allowed to bat if the visiting team took the lead in the top half of the inning and then time ran out.

 

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That is what he said . If it does'nt revert back how can that not be an advantage?

 

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Softball is not the type of sport that a true sudden death format works well. While it is true that both teams had the opppertunity to win the game in the one hour time limit, it really a different then say football. In football the team that wins the coin flip for overtime does have a slight advantage but the defending team also has the oppertunity to cause a turnover and flip the advantage.

In softball if both teams played 5 full innings in the given time limit, and then the lucky coin flip winner scores to end the game in the top if the 6th then I think that the spirit of the game was lost.

Perhaps you could do something like this. Once the time limit expires and the game is tied, place the final out of the last inning at 2nd base and begin with either one or two outs. More importantly do this for both teams. It should make for a short inning (this helps keep things on time) and it allows both teams an equal oppertuntiy to win the game. While it is true that both teams had equal oppertunity to win the game in the previous full innings, allowing one team to have an extra half inning to win the game with no oppertuntiy for the other team is no different then giving one team 4 outs per innings and alowing the other team the normal 3 outs.

Just a suggestion.

 

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What is the address of your facillity? I need it for my gps.

 

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What is the address of your facillity? I need it for my gps.

Middletown Tennis Club
800 2nd Avenue
Middletown, Ohio 45042

 

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Softball is not the type of sport that a true sudden death format works well. While it is true that both teams had the opppertunity to win the game in the one hour time limit, it really a different then say football. In football the team that wins the coin flip for overtime does have a slight advantage but the defending team also has the oppertunity to cause a turnover and flip the advantage.

In softball if both teams played 5 full innings in the given time limit, and then the lucky coin flip winner scores to end the game in the top if the 6th then I think that the spirit of the game was lost.

Perhaps you could do something like this. Once the time limit expires and the game is tied, place the final out of the last inning at 2nd base and begin with either one or two outs. More importantly do this for both teams. It should make for a short inning (this helps keep things on time) and it allows both teams an equal oppertuntiy to win the game. While it is true that both teams had equal oppertunity to win the game in the previous full innings, allowing one team to have an extra half inning to win the game with no oppertuntiy for the other team is no different then giving one team 4 outs per innings and alowing the other team the normal 3 outs.

Just a suggestion.

I'm not trying to be rude but I don't see why you and TheRinger care so much, neither one of you is playing in the tournament. The tournament teams all have the rules and there have been no complaints. We wanted something unique with our tournament and we feel we have it. The entry fee is low, the teams are guaranteed 3 games and there is a night of fun ahead for the girls. We have a live DJ with music and movies will be shown all night.

Our objective is to give teams a good value, some indoor game time and a night where 7 teams can meet and enjoy themselves without the pressures of tournament ball. I think the rules we have established will be fine and thanks for your concerns.

Coach Gregg
Suddendeath Softball

 

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Thanks see you Saturday. Btw I guess we could play D #### ;D

 

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[quote author=Ohio Wave link=1198992766/25#47 date=1202238716]Softball is not the type of sport that a true sudden death format works well. While it is true that both teams had the opppertunity to win the game in the one hour time limit, it really a different then say football. In football the team that wins the coin flip for overtime does have a slight advantage but the defending team also has the oppertunity to cause a turnover and flip the advantage.

In softball if both teams played 5 full innings in the given time limit, and then the lucky coin flip winner scores to end the game in the top if the 6th then I think that the spirit of the game was lost.

Perhaps you could do something like this. Once the time limit expires and the game is tied, place the final out of the last inning at 2nd base and begin with either one or two outs. More importantly do this for both teams. It should make for a short inning (this helps keep things on time) and it allows both teams an equal oppertuntiy to win the game. While it is true that both teams had equal oppertunity to win the game in the previous full innings, allowing one team to have an extra half inning to win the game with no oppertuntiy for the other team is no different then giving one team 4 outs per innings and alowing the other team the normal 3 outs.

Just a suggestion.

I'm not trying to be rude but I don't see why you and TheRinger care so much, neither one of you is playing in the tournament. The tournament teams all have the rules and there have been no complaints. We wanted something unique with our tournament and we feel we have it. The entry fee is low, the teams are guaranteed 3 games and there is a night of fun ahead for the girls. We have a live DJ with music and movies will be shown all night.

Our objective is to give teams a good value, some indoor game time and a night where 7 teams can meet and enjoy themselves without the pressures of tournament ball. I think the rules we have established will be fine and thanks for your concerns.

Coach Gregg
Suddendeath Softball [/quote]

Well you are right, neither of us is playing in this tournament BUT, I have thought about your 12U tournament that you are trying to put together. I'm just trying to understand the rules so I can make a good decision. It's an interesting format. I've never seen this done before, that's all. I don't think Wave nor I said anything negative. I think we've all been involved in drop dead tourneys in the past and I think the majority of the time they cause more problems than they are worth. I think Wave was just trying to pass on a "lessons learned" from past years. It is indoor ball so I know there are funky rules everywhere for indoor ball. Good Luck, I hope it is successful.

 

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Ringer,
I hope you don't make a decision on our outside tournament based on our indoor tournament. As Gregg stated, we are trying to do something different and unique with the indoor stuff. Bottom line is, we are having the all nighter for teams to come and have a good time. We are planning on having several different things for all the girls to do between games. Live DJ, basketball, movies, the local news paper will be there just to name a few. Like you said, some indoor tournaments carry different rules. The "Sudden Death Rule" just goes with what our team represents.... WIN OR GO HOME!!!! Just like when your playing outside, go out, give it your all and try not to put your team in the situation where that rule comes into effect.

I believe at the end of the night....(morning) all teams will be satisfied and will have had a great time.

 

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I don't have any problem with the format. I just saw people posting about it and added some comments. I am sure that everyone will be OK with it, especially since the rules have been posted before the event begins.

Again I was not trying to be negative at all. I saw some posts that mentioned it was unfair and I kind of posted as to why that might be, and made a few comparisions. Please don't think that I was trying to make it an issue.

Best of luck and it sounds like a great time will be had by all. We would have more then likely got in if we were not playing at Sinclair this weekend. We will be looking for a full report from Paul and his Ohio Heat team.

Good luck to all.

 

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No, No, I was talking about the 12U indoor tourney you were thinking about trying to put together. I saw a post from ManitouDan requesting to get one together. I am fully aware indoor ball is completely different than sunshine ball. Heck, OHSAA doesn't even believe it exists.

 

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We're looking forward to a night of fun and fastpitch this Saturday night, Feb. 9, in Middletown. The SDS Indoor Tournament takes place from 6:30 Saturday night to 8:30 Sunday mornin. The sven team entered will be entertained by a DJ who will play a wide variety of music. There will also be movies shown, basketball, and a place to just chill. There will be plenty of food and drinks to purchase. Good luck to all the teams entered and let the fun begin!

Coach Gregg
SDS

 

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Just curious but about how big is the facility??

 

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Just curious but about how big is the facility??

The facility is pretty big. It is kinda divided in 4 areas. The field area itself, then the second section has three full size tennis courts, the third section is the lobby area and then there are two full size courts with portable basket poles. All in all the entire facility is pretty big.

There is plenty of room to accomidate all teams.

 

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oh okay, i just wondered, thanks!!

sounds like a really good tournament, can't wait until tomorrow night!!

 

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Good luck to all of the teams on saturday night. Keep us posted on the results.

Paul, try and stay on your bucket, no racing.