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NSA State for 12u is the same weekend as the ASA/USA Metro National Qualifier....July 1-3
NSA State for 12u is the same weekend as the ASA/USA Metro National Qualifier....July 1-3
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Not a coincidence on our end as we have ran states on the weekend of the 4th for close to 10 years now.
We do offer North and South B states. One is the last weekend of June in the south and the fourth of july weekend in the north.
With so few weekends to run tournaments, it is hard to miss states and NQ's for all of the sanctions.
I personally would love to see us go on the weekend after the fourth in the north, but I can guarantee that someone would move a NQ or State in another sanction on that weekend anyway. Plus it makes the deadline for worlds the same day as states and I can feel sure that teams would need slighlyt more notice if they picked up a berth that same weekend.
Damned if you do..............
We do offer North and South B states. One is the last weekend of June in the south and the fourth of july weekend in the north.
With so few weekends to run tournaments, it is hard to miss states and NQ's for all of the sanctions.
I personally would love to see us go on the weekend after the fourth in the north, but I can guarantee that someone would move a NQ or State in another sanction on that weekend anyway. Plus it makes the deadline for worlds the same day as states and I can feel sure that teams would need slighlyt more notice if they picked up a berth that same weekend.
Damned if you do..............
Well, that blows then. And I'm sure it is just "coincidence" right
But still, are you planning to do both the NSA World Series and ASA/USA?
I guess maybe teams may wish to preserve their NSA option (by playing in states) until they find out if they earned the ASA/USA bid...so, yeah, I can see the point where this stinks.
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Question, if an organization with 1 or 100 teams hosts an ASA Tournament, does ASA give all of their teams a direct berth to a Regional or National WS? Want to get the clear "ruling" on this. I've heard some Sanctioning bodies do this, do all?
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I can pretty much guarantee you that merely hosting an ASA/USA tournament is not going to get a bid to ASA/USA Nationals. (That is not to deny that some teams do go to ASA/USA Nationals without winning a qualifier, if for some reason the ASA Commissioner has some extra berths lying around; I've never understood exactly how that works.). It wouldn't surprise me if hosting a regional qualifier got a bid to the ASA Regional National tournament (our region would be ASA Easterns), because the ASA Commissioner has much greater discretion on those berths.
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Lester, I know regarding the USA/ASA tourney the Hawks are hosting thru Shorty Brewer, we are recieving no berths for running it, and speaking for my team, i wouldnt accept anything i didnt earn.
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USA/ASA - absolutely not .. for USA/ASA there is a bid process in place as well to get them.
An ASA commissioner can give berths as the season comes to and end(unclaimed ones) to regionals and I suppose he / she could to usa/asa if by some stretch they went unclaimed after offering them to all the participating teams in their tourney.
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Right now you are the 18u frontrunner ... ;&
I may have my team play up just to make you earn it... lol
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It is possible, highly unlikely though ... ASA regions get a number of berths to the tournies depending on the number of sanctioning teams that they have in their region. 200 being the mimimum needed to qualify (as I understand it) - they are 'their' berths to award based on tourney's held in their region. if they are not awarded for some reason, then the commissioner came award them to team in their region that he / she feels is deserving based on their schedule played, etc.
An ASA commissioner is not likely going to give an ASA National berth to a team that plays a 50/50 schedule of ASA and some other sanction - or just plays in 1 or 2 ASA events.. but if a team is solid and they 'chase' the berth by playing a primarly strong ASA schedule but for whatever reason don't qualify- he/she would most likely help them out for their effort to qualify and loyalty of playing ASA.
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Thanks guys. Didn't know.
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ASA associations, not regions, get USA/ASA berths based on registrations (201 minimum). By the way, "Every 10 persons registered individually shall be counted as one team."
Every ASA region gets 2 berths for a regional championship/qualifier, regardless of the number of teams. Every region also gets to host a USA/ASA National Qualifier where 1 berth is available to any ASA team.
If a team declines their berth, the association is supposed to pass it down based on the order of finish.
ASA does have host berths - they give 2 to the host of each national final. The hosts also have 8 fill-in berths that are often given to local teams.
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PA is having an ASA/USA National Qualifier Memorial Day weekend and they have advertised it here on OFC. Rumor had it they were only giving the berths to PA teams. The district commisioner confirmed this through an email. As a matter of fact here is part of an email sent....
"Unfortunately the berths that we have are PA ONLY berths, there are different types of berths that are awarded by the State, Regional & National organization and the berths for this tournament are for the USA/ASA National for Pa teams only. We understand if you were only interested in participating for the berth, we would love to have you and we will be awarding Eastern National Berths as well for those qualifying teams. Let me know if this info helps and your intentions."
My question to the experts.....Is this right?
"Unfortunately the berths that we have are PA ONLY berths, there are different types of berths that are awarded by the State, Regional & National organization and the berths for this tournament are for the USA/ASA National for Pa teams only. We understand if you were only interested in participating for the berth, we would love to have you and we will be awarding Eastern National Berths as well for those qualifying teams. Let me know if this info helps and your intentions."
My question to the experts.....Is this right?
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PA awards their association berths at multiple tournaments instead of just their championship. Their Memorial Day tournament is one of those - it is not a true National Qualifier where the berths are open to outside teams.
Here is a list of all their region's National Qualifiers that are open to all teams - http://piedmontvaasa.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/2011-CENTRAL-ATLANTIC-REGION-3-QUALIFIERS.pdf
