Can I get a poll?

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It sounds to me like this is ALL about positions and batting orders. Most organizations have a 24 hour rule. Did you wait the 24 hours or charge him after the game?
It sounds like you are trying to hold this coach accountable for the "lies" of every other coach your dd had. The fact that she played and batted in every game in her first tournament with the team tells me that he gave your dd plenty of playing time and opportunity, especially being the "new player". It's probably more time than she would have gotten from most coaches.

 

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Every post is about positions and playing time but now that 10 pages of people don't agree with you, it's about several other things?? From what I understand, you left the game and called 10 minutes later to say you were done, no alleged meetings and no discussions.

 

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Our daughter is one of the 14u who has asked for her release after this weekends tournament. We did not ask for her release because of playing time , batting lineup or postion played. We asked for her release because of several things. One of the main problems our dauughter had was the rude comments made by her coach. We was talking with our coach on Sunday and he walked away from us.

Sorry to by cynical but this kind of reads as "We didn't leave because of playing time, but because when we went to complain about playing time coach was rude to us and wouldn't discuss it with us."

If you left because you didn't like the way the coach talked to your DD, I can support that, it's a game, it's not worth being told your worthless by some jerk who thinks the way to motivate players is to scream at them about what they shouldn't do, instead of telling them what he wants them to do. But shame on you for not researching the guy a little better in the first place.

IME coaches that are jerks and scream at players are consistant, they can't go a single game without showing their stripes (especially if they are losing). Do yourself a favor and watch your next potential coach work a few games before entrusting your kid to them, or at least find someone you trust who has seen him/her in action and an give reliable testimony.

 

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So, you were standing there when she committed to the team and heard the coach say "I PROMISE your daughter will ALWAYS play 3rd, 1st or catch, additionally, she will bat 4th in my line up" then you witnessed the pinkie promise?

She is telling the truth about there last team in the fall.The coach lied to everyone,was worthless and untrustworthy.Had no loyalty to players commited to his team.The man told so many lies that he couldnt remember what he told to whom.He even told one parent before a tournament that we were having money troubles and that I went out along the side of the road picking up cans to make enough money to pay our way to this event.:lmao: I found out that everything he said was a lie,(the team did disband)
And what they said about this guys antics in the winter tourn. is right on the money.If anything she was being kind in the way she worded the story.Couse there is so much more to the story.
And after being on a team like that wouldnt you be leary of a coach that lied to you right of the bat?Wouldnt that bring up memorys of driving 2 hours for practice one way?Wouldnt it make you wonder are we getting into the same situation that we were in before?If you say no you are a fool.
So what would you do in this situation? Does it make you wrong for wanting your dd to be on a team where you can believe what you are told by the coach?When everything is out in the open no lies no b.s. everyone gets along better.The players know what to expect and so do the parents.And they gel as a team.Teams like this are most the time pretty good teams and do well in games.
You have to be able to trust in your coach.PERIOD

So dont be quick to judge as this poster does have every right to be cautious after the disbanding of there original choice of a team.

 

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After reading these many comments and opinions, I'm thankful we are where we are. For what it's worth, there are always two sides (and sometimes more) to every story.

In my case, it's always better for me to keep my mouth shut and have people think I'm an idiot, than to open my mouth and remove all doubt.

NAC

 

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I love a good ole' fashioned OFC tail whippin. Reminds me of the good old days!

 

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So, you were standing there when she committed to the team and heard the coach say "I PROMISE your daughter will ALWAYS play 3rd, 1st or catch, additionally, she will bat 4th in my line up" then you witnessed the pinkie promise?

Read the post.I didnt say that.I just said that they had been lied to in the past.Go drink some hater aid and relax.

 

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Lol

read the post.i didnt say that.i just said that they had been lied to in the past.go drink some hater aid and relax.

 

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I can't believe y'all are still beatin' this dead horse. Got tired of reading about it on page 6.

 

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I can't believe y'all are still beatin' this dead horse. Got tired of reading about it on page 6.

:lmao: True Dat

 

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What's interesting is we are all sick of reading this thread, but it's like watching Jerry Springer... you know the show is cr*p, but you find yourself completely capativated.

 

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I can't believe y'all are still beatin' this dead horse. Got tired of reading about it on page 6.

If you were so tired on page 6, how the heck did you get to page 12????????? :lmao:

 

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By removing your DD from the team due to your impatience and discontent you have taught your child that she is more important than the team. Yes, parent, coach conversations can lead us all to believe something that may not actually happen when it comes to game time. Ever stop to think that maybe, just maybe, your daughter wasn't quite as good at her requested position as the girl they had now? Sometimes it takes time for a new player to break the built chemistry on an established roster. You have got to be patient and willing to build the trust of the players and coaching staff.
It is just very hard for me to believe that if your child is such a stud on the corners and hits "245" bombs that the coach wouldn't take advantage of this talent. When she's not hitting bombs - does she strike out? Heck - I have seen about 300 high school and college games and don't believe I have seen a shot go that far. Maybe I'm just not attending the right games.
Bottome line - yes, you need to do what's best for you and your family but you are about to lose a whole season of travel ball. Kids in this day and age that lose a whole season tend to really struggle when competing against girls that stay active and play live ball. You can only beat so many balls in a batting cage before you realize none of the hits count as RBI's or hear the applause of teammates and parents.
I hope you can take some time and really contemplate this decision. Is playing an undesired position really worth cancelling a whole summer of development and memory building? Remember, it's about developing your child for the future.....not trying to rekindle your past.

What does it matter that my DD has lost a whole season of travel ball? Apparently no-one wants her to play travel anyway. It's not about "playing a desired position". Read ALL the posts. Maybe, just maybe, you'll see that it's not. Heck try the first post. IT'S ABOUT BEING LIED TO!!!! Do you honestly think I would have put it on this site if it WASN"T FACT??????? I've been here long enough to see that you should watch what you say. Piranhas & sharks! I'm not just saying team names either.

 

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What's interesting is we are all sick of reading this thread, but it's like watching Jerry Springer... you know the show is cr*p, but you find yourself completely capativated.

You watch Jerry Springer?:lmao:

 

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What does it matter that my DD has lost a whole season of travel ball? Apparently no-one wants her to play travel anyway. It's not about "playing a desired position". Read ALL the posts. Maybe, just maybe, you'll see that it's not. Heck try the first post. IT'S ABOUT BEING LIED TO!!!! Do you honestly think I would have put it on this site if it WASN"T FACT??????? I've been here long enough to see that you should watch what you say. Piranhas & sharks! I'm not just saying team names either.

I think that if you daughter has half the talent you say she does there are a lot of teams that would welcome her. The problem seems to be that you are part of the package; if a team could get you to stay away I imagine your daughter and her teammates would have a fun season.

 

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Mom, my summary is - 1) you may have been 'sold to' by an inexperienced coach, but he or she should be commended for making the tough decision in the best interest of team if your daughter hasn't earned the spot. 2) you and your daughter should now know that all positions are earned and not promised and if your daughter wants to play a specific position she is going to have to work harder to do it.

Seems like a pretty good life lesson to me because it happens in the business world all the time.

 

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If you were so tired on page 6, how the heck did you get to page 12????????? :lmao:

You can skip all the pages in between by clicking "Last".

 

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DISCLAIMER:
If you are looking at a new team and the coach is making promises, such as you have stated.....RUN AS FAST AS YOU CAN!!!!!

OK...My 2 cents
No good coach should ever make promises about positions or playing time, or they have taken away the competitive nature of the game. You as a parent/player should never accept promises because it creates lethargy, and the unwillingness to have to work to earn something.

"Nothing worth having was ever obtained without hard work!!"

I guess honesty is an earned position.

 

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A coach making promises is setting her/himself up for a rough way to go. The best coaches and teams I have seen and been with never make a promise because there is a strong chance to break the promise. Good coaches want to have options always open and strive to be flexible. Injury prone players can tilt the roster positions as well. Having players able to handle 2 or 3 positions is a good thing.

Right field is not a weak position when you have a fast pitcher, those batters swing late and the right fielder has the ball.

A 2 to 3 hour drive can make you frustrated when wanting a promise fulfilled.
I say question a coach when they make promises........get it on paper if they are true to their word have them write it down and back it up.

I know that now.

 

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Not smart as a coach to promise someone they will bat 4th. But we,as parents, tend to see things through Mommy-goggles. Meaning sometimes we over rate our kids.

Also, are you saying right field is not important??? It is one of the most important spots on the field, as is every other position. That is what I call "REC- ball mentality"

O.K. I said 4th. My bad. He said she was their power hitter. Also, I said she was only "moved" to r-field. I think my daughter is weak in r-field because she is not fast enough. Is that REC-ball mentality? You must be looking through mommy-goggles if you think I underated the position. Every position IS important, and I believe that a player MUST be a benefit to it.