Can I get a poll?

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Exactly! Coaches that make promises are trouble and parents that want promises are trouble.

Parents that want promises are trouble? What school, church, and extra curricular educaters, (hitting coaches, piano teachers, etc.), do you go to?

 

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Parents that want promises are trouble? What school, church, and extra curricular educaters, (hitting coaches, piano teachers, etc.), do you go to?

My DD pitches and goes to a very well known pitching coach in the area. He said this to us, I can promise you that I can teach your daughter to pitch, but I can't promise that she'll be the best pitcher around, that is completely up to your daughter. I had to respect that.

What people are telling you on here is simply a coach of a team that promises you anything other than trying to make your dd a better team player is making promises that they can't and shouldn't keep. A team coach is not a hitting, pitching or position coach, they should manage with the mindset of what is best for the team and that may mean what is not necessarily best for your dd and her situation.

If you wanted a poll you should have just asked if a coach has ever lied to you and ended it there. You felt the need to expand and that is what you are being attacked for. The fact that you quit, shows nothing more than an immature response to an action that happened one time over a weekend and not a repetitive action that happened over the entire season. Essentially, you are buying stock and got upset when the stock broker told you it was going to rise in a 24 hour period and it didn't. So what you ended up doing was taking a loss and walking away instead of waiting it out and seeing the results in a couple of months and what they might have been. Then determining if the team was in your dd's best interest.

That's my two cents.

 

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Answer the question, I will.
No, because I dont ask anything nor do I want anything guaranteed. If my kid made the team during a tryout, then it's her job to do what is needed to guarantee a spot in the lineup as well in the field. My job is to be her postive reinforcement and work with her on improving when she is not with her coach, but yet working the weaknesses the coach may have pointed out. My job is to be her #1 fan and father, what ever the coach decides is what he/she decides and that's why I pay the player fee's because he/she I felt was qualified to keep my kid on the correct path and hopefully get to the next level of play and make her a better athlete and person.

I didn't ask the coach a single question. He just told me, (I guess), what I wanted to hear. I told him our situation and he knew what we needed to know before we decided to commit ourselves to a travel team. We didn't want to cause the team or us any problems because of our current situation. We were thinking about just subbing for teams if they needed a player. The OFC "No girl left behind" scholarship made us think we could commit, but only if it was going to benefit our DD as WELL as the team. Travelling itself is VERY expensive. Subbing for a weekend when you can afford it wouldn't have hurt anyone. I believed the coach was qualified to make our daughter a better athlete. We could have subbed for teams that needed her position so she could get more experience there. As for a better person, we know our daughter is better than that coach. She doesn't promise something she has no intention of giving.

 

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No "mommy goggles" there...;&

I guess rdelawders "daddy goggles" don't matter.

 

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My DD pitches and goes to a very well known pitching coach in the area. He said this to us, I can promise you that I can teach your daughter to pitch, but I can't promise that she'll be the best pitcher around, that is completely up to your daughter. I had to respect that.

What people are telling you on here is simply a coach of a team that promises you anything other than trying to make your dd a better team player is making promises that they can't and shouldn't keep. A team coach is not a hitting, pitching or position coach, they should manage with the mindset of what is best for the team and that may mean what is not necessarily best for your dd and her situation.

If you wanted a poll you should have just asked if a coach has ever lied to you and ended it there. You felt the need to expand and that is what you are being attacked for. The fact that you quit, shows nothing more than an immature response to an action that happened one time over a weekend and not a repetitive action that happened over the entire season. Essentially, you are buying stock and got upset when the stock broker told you it was going to rise in a 24 hour period and it didn't. So what you ended up doing was taking a loss and walking away instead of waiting it out and seeing the results in a couple of months and what they might have been. Then determining if the team was in your dd's best interest.

That's my two cents.

I guess I shouldn't have put MY "two cents" in. I'm just glad I didn't put any of my limited $ into "stock" a broker promised that was showing it was going down.

 

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Can this beaten dead horse get a burial and move on

 

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Sorry to be so blunt - - -

Don't know about most so-called travel teams today, but when a kid tries out for a summer college showcase team, they are ONLY trying out for a position on the team. My DD pitched in college, BUT when she was 14, if the coach needed her in left field, that's exactly where she trotted her butt out to. She didn't need any explanation either, because she accepted at an early age that it was the coaches decision where (and IF) he needed her that game. Believe me, there is a LOT less drama when families take that approach - and it will help the kid down the road. It's all about helping the team win the game at hand.

Any kid who is NOT willing to play ANY position, or bat anywhere in the order should stay in rec. ball.

At 14u shoudn't helping the team win the game mean putting the player where she benefits the team the most? If that means she doesn't play that game then so be it. I never said my daughter wasn't willing to play any position she was asked to. She does! She trotted her little butt right into r-field as she was asked to. She even sat the bench as asked without throwing a fit, (we've seen that before from other players). Rec. ball is beneficial in Ohio. At least they get more playing time. Ohio doesn't let FP softball be played all year round. We let our DD play as much as we can. If that means we can only afford rec. ball that year then so be it. At least she's playing and having fun doing it.

 

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DD plays 3 positions and will be willing to play wherever and whenever the coach needs her. At 16U, they have injuries from high school ball and girls still playing in the state tourney to require flexibility by all players for their 1st travel tournament next weekend. No one should be promised playing time.

I agree! They have injuries and other situations that they require flexibility in 14u too. Promising someone playing time is a lie.

 

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There's your answer, keep her in rec ball.

 

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I guarantee my players one thing and one thing only. That they will be better players by the end of the season. That is the only promise I make. When you try-out for a team and make it, you have earned a spot on the team NOT a position in the field. My players are told up front that they will learn 3 positions...outfield, infield, and the bench. By pulling your kid because she didn't get a position she was promised, you aren't teaching her a good lesson. Make her work harder for what she wants instead of quitting and looking for a sure thing. It's her first year in travel ball, she has to take her lumps. If you pull her everytime she isn't starting where you want her to, she will get a bad name and believe me, people talk!!

It's nice you don't promise anything but improvement. That is all we wanted by her getting more playing time. She already knows how to play 1st, 3rd, & catch to the best of HER ability. Is she a God at all of them? I have never said she was. All I said is she was lied to and promised that was all she was going to play as well as no bench time. We promised the coach that if he pulled her from those promised positions that we would have to bow out. He was told we couldn't afford to travel that far to practice and tournaments if it wasn't for HER benefit. He said she was their power hitter and she would only play those spots. Wasn't he saying that is where she was going to benefit the team the most? Isn't that why a coach selects players? For how well they play a position and how it will benefit the team? Isn't that "earning" a spot on a team? We only kept OUR promise. If that gives us a bad name, OH WELL! I would rather be known as people that keep our promises.

 

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There's your answer, keep her in rec ball.

You are hateful person, to the point that it exposes how much you hate softball! READ THE WHOLE POST! If you did you may see how other people can get that picture of your ailment.

 

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Can this beaten dead horse get a burial and move on

YOU CAN!!!!! Quit visiting the post! Is someone twisting your arm or beating you with a softball bat?:lmao:

 

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So, are you still looking for some help in trying to post a poll?

DD sits the bench quite often (you know, a 12YO pitcher who has 8 pitches with her change up in the low sixties) and as much as she likes to pitch, she enjoys riding the bench because she gets to cheer on her teammates. She also loves to play right field and center (when she can find it).

In all fairness, the first year out of rec ball moving into travel is a trial for everyone. As parents, we should lighten up, sit down, and shut up. Always try to avoid signing the non-compete clause.

So, what part of this post is fact and what is fiction. I really do have a daughter.

Can I get an "Amen", or at least a hi-jack? And, yes, I have ADD.......squirrel!

LSHIFOTF,MSFO,&IDMT

 

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MOM I think you should think about the meaning of TEAM.

 

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YOU CAN!!!!! Quit visiting the post! Is someone twisting your arm or beating you with a softball bat?:lmao:

I've been hit with a softball bat and it really hurts. BTW, she dropped her hands.

 

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I think that if you daughter has half the talent you say she does there are a lot of teams that would welcome her. The problem seems to be that you are part of the package; if a team could get you to stay away I imagine your daughter and her teammates would have a fun season.

What do you mean about a team welcoming us, it's about us welcoming a team. Yes we are a package deal. I'm not driving 3 hrs. from home to leave my 14yr. old daughter with people I hardly know. Any other kind of staying away? You may be interested to know that I don't sit near the players or the other parents. When all the other parents are sitting behind the plate it gets hard to watch the game.

 

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Boy it sure sounds like you are the package deal. Good to know for future reference. I know the organization you referring to, and I question your sincerity and your accuracy. If it were truly about the team, you would have. and should have, behaved differently. I believe your words were about you welcoming the team, not the team welcoming you. Good luck wherever you land.

JMHO JMHO JMHO JMHO (Sorry Klump)

 

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You are hateful person, to the point that it exposes how much you hate softball! READ THE WHOLE POST! If you did you may see how other people can get that picture of your ailment.

I'm far from hateful. I read every single post in this thread and unfortunately I am unable to regain the lost minutes and now hours of my life from reading this thread. You are the one who has insisted on being so stubborn and thick headed over the matter.

The only certain facts I have been able to obtain from your posts are this.
1. You're delusional
2. Medical help should be sought.
3. Your daughter is suffering because of your level of maturity.
4. You are going to beat this until someone gets on here and actually tells you what you want to hear.
5. You quit a team committment over one weekend of tourneys and I'm not even sure you lasted the whole weekend.
6. You keep crying the poor house. Travel isn't cheap. If you can't afford to drive two or three hours away, then don't do it. There are local travel teams, or maybe you've exhausted those avenues.

I could go on. In conclusion, my point is, grow up, shut up and move on.

 

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I'm far from hateful. I read every single post in this thread and unfortunately I am unable to regain the lost minutes and now hours of my life from reading this thread. You are the one who has insisted on being so stubborn and thick headed over the matter.

The only certain facts I have been able to obtain from your posts are this.
1. You're delusional
2. Medical help should be sought.
3. Your daughter is suffering because of your level of maturity.
4. You are going to beat this until someone gets on here and actually tells you what you want to hear.
5. You quit a team committment over one weekend of tourneys and I'm not even sure you lasted the whole weekend.
6. You keep crying the poor house. Travel isn't cheap. If you can't afford to drive two or three hours away, then don't do it. There are local travel teams, or maybe you've exhausted those avenues.

I could go on. In conclusion, my point is, grow up, shut up and move on.

Boy, this sure rules out my whole "Adding to your post count" theory. In the end, the kid will suffer from the actions of the parent. Very unfortunate. And, yes, I believe one can be addicted to OFC with less than 1,000 posts.

 

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What do you mean about a team welcoming us, it's about us welcoming a team. Yes we are a package deal. I'm not driving 3 hrs. from home to leave my 14yr. old daughter with people I hardly know. Any other kind of staying away? You may be interested to know that I don't sit near the players or the other parents. When all the other parents are sitting behind the plate it gets hard to watch the game.

As I said earlier you need to understand the meaning of team. YOU isolate yourself and apparently seriously thought your DD was going to play every inning of every game in the position YOU wanted her to play and bat 4th. I would have to say they decided your DD is not as good as they thought or they are already tired of YOU. I'm sure they will be glad to be rid of YOU and the only one who loses out is your DD.