coach ethics and recruiting!

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Just curious as to what everyone's thoughts are when a player initiates the conversation because she is not happy because a coach defines a role and he or she does not live up to their end of the bargain. Or perhaps it just does not work out. I would like to know what other coaches/teams do in these situations. Is that player turned away and told wait until next year to make a move and expected to remain in a bad situation or is okay to have discussions with them? As for someone being a #3 pitcher, one guy's #3 is another guy's #1. If a coach over promised and then under delivered about a player's role on their team then that coach in my opinion should be prepared for that player and her parents to look elsewhere. If it is a case of a player falling behind or not working hard that is a different story. JMO!

If a player or her parents initiate the conversation and it is totally unsolicited from the coach or any parents or players on that team, then I see no problem with moving forward.

Incidentally and for what it's worth, I can say that in the Pacific NW, the top teams simply recruit non-stop, including during the summer. The only criteria is whether a player can help the team win.

 

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If a player or her parents initiate the conversation and it is totally unsolicited from the coach or any parents or players on that team, then I see no problem with moving forward. Incidentally and for what it's worth, I can say that in the Pacific NW, the top teams simply recruit non-stop, including during the summer. The only criteria is whether a player can help the team win.

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And if they do initiate the conversation with other team you probabley do not want them on your team, because it may just lead to problems later.

 

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I agree that in many cases these are the types of families coaches should stay away from, but believe it or not there are coaches out there coaching teams that are playing in 5 tourneys telling 5 pitchers they are going to get them a sufficient amount of work. So the lack of ethics comes from the coaches too.

 

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I agree that in many cases these are the types of families coaches should stay away from, but believe it or not there are coaches out there coaching teams that are playing in 5 tourneys telling 5 pitchers they are going to get them a sufficient amount of work. So the lack of ethics comes from the coaches too.

And those are the ones usually poaching.

Sorry I tried to stop

 

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what is the term for a coach misrepresenting a player's role if recruiting is called poaching? Is that just lying?

 

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what is the term for a coach misrepresenting a player's role if recruiting is called poaching? Is that just lying?

I would say so. Also highly used in the poaching process

 

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Cool...just trying to learn all the lingo!

 

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In defense of the coaches out there, sometimes a player falls short of the expectations you have when evaluating them , with that said ; A majority of the coaches would like to have 3 solid pitchers for their team before tryouts. These coaches should be putting it in lap of the player and the parents. The coach should make it clear that with hard work and success will come more opputunity for your DD to pitch.The # 1 position is open. The same with position players. Dont under estimate the heart of the player! Im sorry but some players work harder than others and these players can come along and make promises look like lies. Compitition is healthy! This happened to my DD. We tried out for a team that told us we would like to have your DD pitch and play infield. Well, she took lessons, but didnt work as hard as the other 2 pitchers, and she became a very good infielder.( Haha!) This made the team better.The coach only promised her an oppurtunity to compete for the spot. As a parent I have to look at it "without rose-colored glasses". Those 2 other pitchers worked harder than my DD. My DD wasnt as good , but she was good enough to jump to another team and be a 1 or 2 on some of the teams we played against. I,m teaching my DD, to honor your commitment and keep workin hard! My DD and I are not going to make the right decision everytime if we do our homework we can limit our mistakes! Parents, see what your DD is up against when committing to that team. If a coach tells you that your DD is my starting (position), BEWARE! It takes a special commitment to pitch ,its has to come from the player; not the parents! My DD is happy with a team that she does not pitch for. Thats what counts!!!!!

 

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There are several coaches out there who constantly say "don't worry about that loss, we are building for next year" How can you continue to tell your team this when they are playing for this year. Parents get sick of hearing it and so do the girls and that is why girls don't return , and parents begin looking for another team in mid season.

If you hold try-outs and you form a team you should give 100% for that year and then most girls may stay and then you would have built for next year without saying so.