Ego or just plain mean?

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One team down something like 8-0. The opposing team is up to bat. The first base coach is saying stuff like.."Come on...let's make it hurt".
So is that ego or just plain being mean? 16U teams...and a team from a nice organization.
I wasn't there and didn't hear it but heard from a couple of other parents. Just seems plain mean to me.
 
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I might be on my own here but I see nothing wrong with wanting to lay down a good old fashion *** whipping.....this isn't rec ball, girls should be giving 100% all the time at 16u (it would be different if this was a 10u or 12u game, or an A team playing in a B tournament)
 
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I would have to disagree. I think that you can win with "class". And when you do that, folks look at the good in your team.
So called "studs" come and go. What might be a great team this year may be a good team the following year. It's ok to have the ego but when you are up on a team and say things like that, well most folks think you are a.... Girls can give 100% without the coach telling them to make it hurt. Just seems "bush" to me.
 
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Marla, the more I think about it, the more I agree that his comment was tacky and egotistical....I just like the idea of giving an *** whipping ;)
 
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Sounds to me like there is a history between the teams. Most teams we will call off the dogs, but there are a few that we'll step on the gas when given the opportunity.
 
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Maybe they misheard the coach and what was really said was "let's make it good" or something? I know I misheard something last weekend and was very pleased when it was clarified for me. From this I learned to give the opposing coaches the benefit of the doubt.
 
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I dont think any coach at any level or age group should say things like that...when I hear it, It is classless in my opinion. these are girls and adults shouldnt say thing like that...................my opinion......
 
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It isn't classless to push your team to keep playing 100%. He crossed the line when he brought the other team into the equation and said it out in the open within their earshot. I wouldn't have a problem with a coach saying it in the privacy of a team huddle, but they'd still be taking a chance the other team would hear it.

I prefer teams conduct themselves the same whether they're winning or losing - and that includes the parents and spectators. It's just as classless for a losing team to make unflattering comments about the other team within their earshot. Use that emotion as motivation to improve instead of displacing it on the other team, umpire or tournament host.
 
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The victory sounded like it was in the bag....so... Go ahead and go at them without class and at the same time wear your own team out and increase the potential for a senseless injury.
 
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My favorite was a coach in the dugout saying "Yeah, sit down" when our #4 batter struck out. I stood in awe that a coach would say that to a 12u player...when I kept her dad from meeting him in the parking lot, I did him a huge favor!!!!
 
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Stop being a victim. Really it's girls softball come on guys!!!
 
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Something like that should be said in the dugout or team huddle. Gotta love teams with killer instinct and the werewithall to step on a teams throat.
 
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The expression "let's make it hurt" by itself isn't always a case of JackA$$-itis. Maybe this person says it in every game as an encouragement to hit the ball hard. Yes, they should choose better cliche's, but we can't all be politcally correct all the time...
 
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I'm totally missing something, "Let's make it hurt" is out of line? Really it sounds like that coaches little phrase, I'm thinking I wouldn't be offended by that.
 
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DD, who has been a reliable pitcher all season, gave up 4 earned runs in one inning to a Canadian team last weekend. We're talkin' lasers into the outfield, to the fence...believe me, that made her hurt regardless of what was being said in the coaches box. (they were very,very polite Canadians) and it still hurt!
 
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I would like to point out that the tie breakers for seeding in most tournament ball is 'runs allowed' and then 'runs scored'. We were seeded second last week because we didn't score those 2 extra runs. The mercy rules are in place to keep the scores from becoming immense but until the TD's find some other way to seed there you'll never score enough runs in an hour and a half.

There is also a problem that if you do back your team down and play at half speed you may not be able to bring the level of intensity back up when you face your next opponent. You just can't turn it off and then on at will.
 
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That doesn't sound like something that would get my feathers ruffled. I say "come on, let's get mean" alot and I really don't want them to be mean to other people, it's just a saying to get them pumped up. I think people tend to get really sensitive when they are losing and can take things out of context. There are some tools out there who do offer up the occasional tasteless comment but I think for the most part it is blown out of proportion.

I agree with Fairman, the girls have to play their game. If they outmatch or are outmatched by an opponent, the best thing to do is get it over as quickly as possible.
 
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This incident aside, the varied backgrounds of the coaches in girls' fastpitch have a lot to do with inconsistent behaviors. Some teams are coached by men with baseball backgrounds, some are coached by men with mens' fastpitch backgrounds, some are coached by men with only girls' fastpitch backgrounds and some are coached by women with only girls' fastpitch backgrounds. Men with baseball backgrounds and mens' fastpitch backgrounds tend to follow the unwritten rules more closely. They don't steal when they have a big lead in the late innings, etc. in fact, they will go out of their way not to run up the score. They are also more likely to take exception to those who don't follow the unwritten rules by doing little things to relatiate. If the other coach is mouthing off in the third base box and laughing at the opposing team or obviously running up the score, then his/her batters had better be ready to dodge an errant pitch. That's how the big boys play the game. If your pitcher hits our pitcher in the elbow, then she'd better come to the plate wearing some body armor. I'm not saying any of that is good, bad or otherwise. I'm just saying that's how it is. As for the incident in question: It's a free country, but like I said, that coach is putting his players at risk by being a big mouth-- depending on who's coaching in the other dugout.
 
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We hear things as parents that the girls don't hear and during a butt whipping the rabbit ears come out , chances are the girls did'nt even pay any mind to it
 
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I would like to point out that the tie breakers for seeding in most tournament ball is 'runs allowed' and then 'runs scored'. We were seeded second last week because we didn't score those 2 extra runs. The mercy rules are in place to keep the scores from becoming immense but until the TD's find some other way to seed there you'll never score enough runs in an hour and a half.

Great points!

There is also a problem that if you do back your team down and play at half speed you may not be able to bring the level of intensity back up when you face your next opponent. You just can't turn it off and then on at will.
Great points!
 

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