Help!!! Growing pains!

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First off let me say thanks to all of you for an amazing group of parents and players that all love this sport. I learn so much from this site.

I am the head coach/ manager of a 10u team out of Fairborn. This year is our 1st year converting from slow/rec to fastpitch travel/select. I knew we would have growing pains with pitching game and with our catcher. However our biggest problem right now is heart. They make mistakes they never made last year fielding catching and our bats are ICE cold. Right now we have no drive, i'm always having to yell down and ready and get them to focus. I know that we are gonna have to grow but I think its my fault I have spent so much time devoted to learning the new aspects of this game that I lost focus on the reps of the basics.

Any advice?

Thanks again guys! :cap:
 
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The fielding and catching problems might indeed be not enough reps. But the ice cold bats . . . I'm guessing that is related to the switch to fastpitch. A girl's slow pitch swing mechanics can have all kinds of hitches and things that would be considered flaws in fastpitch but the batter can get away with those mechanics while still being successful. If your team is facing decent 10u fastpitch pitching now, the difference in speed and trajectory might be exposing those flaws. Do your girls "cast" around the outside of the ball with the hands? Have you taught them a system for hitting fastpitch pitching?
 
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my girls have had more looking strike outs then anything. They are frozen at the plate. We have descent base running, and its like they are looking to get walked. Its very frustrating! When they do swing most are very late on the ball, a couple are swinging as the ball reaches the catchers glove. I had the out look of learning by fire and just playing, so we have played good teams. Im affraid that maybe they are now bummed and the confidence is down because of it.
 
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Tim Duncan is right in your backyard. Him and his dd Britt teach out of the Edge facility. His name is Bouldersdad on here. I am sure he would be able to give you some pointers on the hitting.
 
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I have recently hear that! That one of the best hitting instructors in this state is 5 mins from me! I will give him a ring for my DD for sure.
 
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Lack of hitting can be frustrating, but nothing takes the wind out of the sails faster than "inexperienced" pitching. While it's true you have to score runs to win, your defense MUST at least keep you in the game - and give a sense of confidence. While you're at Tim's, I would suggest asking him to suggest an experienced pitching coach in your area. Yeah, I know how Tim just hates pitchers and all they stand for ** :cool: ** but I'll bet he'll help you out anyway... He's that kind of guy!

You'd be surprised how fast a team's confidence can suddenly rise when they have a confident pitcher leading them in the circle. She's the leader out there, and absolutely cannot wear her emotions on her sleeve. Part of that is instinct, the rest are techniques that can be taught by a savvy instructor.

Also, find some FUN fielding drills and an organized practice method to keep them ALL busy doing something for at least an hour straight. You'll need a few knowledgeable "helpers" who are all on the same page. The KEY is to be creative and keep it fun.

Great to see your dedication to the sport, & good luck!
 
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My observations jUst by what you stated in your message
Remember that they are 10u and transitioning from slow to fast pitch. ... Stick to fundamentals as far as skills go, teach them how the game is played aka rules, ettiquette, situations and proper way to execute the play in those situations.

Focus on the small successe and bite your tongue when you see the failures during the game which are better addressed in the next practice. Above all keep it fun!

Stop yelling, I have learned through years of coaching my dd that though I was raising my voice thinking the girls could hear me better or what I had to say was important and constructive, they took offense and only brought them down more as they heard harsh criticism. So much from learning how to coach by playing prep football in the 70's

Are your expectations in line with the teams and the teams ability. Maybe some simple team talks or casual get togethers off of the playing field aka picnic, pool or amusement park all are ways to build better team chemistry.

Get assistance from other seasoned coaches in your organization, or from others outside of it who would be willing to do a combined team practice. Girls seem to really like and aspire to be like there older softball peers. We have hosted and have been through these throughout my dd travel years.

Have a plan but willing to be flexible when something you learn from your team players seems to indicate change may be necessary. As long as you grow as your team does, you will do fine

Good luck fellow coach
 
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Thanks guys, krystian dewitt is our pitching coach. Shes the starting pitcher for wright state.
 
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Definitely go to Tim, but not just for your daughter. Go to him to coach you on how to teach a systematic method of fastpitch hitting to your team. When you say that your hitters are late and that they seem to be looking for walks, that suggests to me that the young ladies are not getting to toe-touch and "box" (with the top leading elbow ready to make a strong first move if the pitch is either a strike or one the hitter considers in her zone) early enough. At toe-touch and box, your hitters then can make the decision whether to continue the swing at the pitch or to hold off because the pitch is not in the hitter's zone. Waiting until the hitter realizes it is a strike to make any of these moves will indeed result in "late" swings or in just being frozen by a strike. And again, I suspect that the hands are not inside of the ball in the course of the swing, which also can make the swing "late".

Tim can explain all of these things and a bazillion more. Go to him. And ask him whether he would do a group lesson at some point with your team, and how the fee would be structured.
 
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@CGS,
If he takes his dd to lessons, he can learn just like his dd is. 2 for the price of 1. Lol.

If you need his contact information, PM me.

Andrew
 
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Let me suggest along with the other excellent suggestions that you do things and are fun and aggressive when you practice and warm up. It sounds like the kids are a bit unsure and tentative. Have them slide a lot and practice popping right up. Have them round first and dive back. Accelerate their throwing drills and single out pairs who are catching while moving their feet and preparing for the next throw. Practice sliding catches in the outfield...short tosses as player runs in and slides (like a base running slide) to catch the ball. Drop steps on pop ups and reward with praise any running catch taking extra effort...especially if the kid goes down and holds onto the ball. With hitting keep emphasizing strong, and good rotation and hitting it over the infield. Let them love to bunt too.

The point is extend their range and expectations. Make aggressiveness and getting dirty praiseworthy and by all means try not to yell during a game to much. Speak clear instructions and then let them play. . To much instruction just makes them nervous and tentative.
 
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Let me suggest along with the other excellent suggestions that you do things and are fun and aggressive when you practice and warm up. It sounds like the kids are a bit unsure and tentative. Have them slide a lot and practice popping right up. Have them round first and dive back. Accelerate their throwing drills and single out pairs who are catching while moving their feet and preparing for the next throw. Practice sliding catches in the outfield...short tosses as player runs in and slides (like a base running slide) to catch the ball. Drop steps on pop ups and reward with praise any running catch taking extra effort...especially if the kid goes down and holds onto the ball. With hitting keep emphasizing strong, and good rotation and hitting it over the infield. Let them love to bunt too.

The point is extend their range and expectations. Make aggressiveness and getting dirty praiseworthy and by all means try not to yell during a game to much. Speak clear instructions and then let them play. . To much instruction just makes them nervous and tentative.
This is so true. Im learning also that coaching boy i way different than girls. I just heard Mike Candrea say biggest thing he learned about coaching girls is "Guys need great plays to feel good, Girls need to feel good to make great plays"!
 
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This is so true. Im learning also that coaching boy i way different than girls. I just heard Mike Candrea say biggest thing he learned about coaching girls is "Guys need great plays to feel good, Girls need to feel good to make great plays"!

Coach Candrea has books and videos that cover almost every part of the game. I'd suggest checking out his library of information as well as going to the ASA website for suggested reading. Everyone on here has had to learn the game somehow and many have finally learned they can't coach girls the same as they may have coached boys in the past. Also, you'll find over time there IS a difference between baseball and fastpitch softball and you'll need to remember this to be good at coaching the game.

The other fact you have already touched on is the need to coach girls different than boys. I use the following analogy to explain the differences when giving a coaching clinic:

If you walk up on a group of young boys and pick one out, then instruct him to go run head on into a tree nearby, watch out for what will happen. Most young men will do what they are told, even if it's to show off for his buddies watching. The worst senario would mean you'd have to say "because I told you to" to insure he'll complete the task. Now walk up to a bunch of girls and point one out instructing her to run head first into a nearby tree. You'll almost always get a strange look followed by the question "why?" This in a nutshell is the difference between coaching boys and girls. Boys will react to a command, sometimes for the wrong reasons while a girl needs reason to react. If you explain the need to a girl on "why" she should run head on into a tree and it makes sense, she'll go run head on into a tree. One thing is for sure, she won't do it unless she understands "why." For this reason, I call all my clinics "Why" clinics because I take the time to explain the reasoning behind every facet of the game. Once a girl understands "why", she'll perform for you. Don't try to tell a girl to do it "because I said so" or you'll get the dreaded "stare." You don't want the "stare." That hollow look that has the gears turning behind their eyes while they try to determine if they can kill you and get away with murder. If you ever get the "stare", be sure to back up and retry your approach.

While I would be happy to help you in more detail if you'd like to im me for a more personal contact, I'd like to use this thread to point out something that has been a topic of debate by myself and one of my best friends in life. The subject has been the need to learn fastpitch and play the game at its earliest moment instead of playing slowpitch and converting at a later age. My friend has always campaigned that girls should play slowpitch until they become teenagers so they can develop the skills to field the ball and give them confidence at the plate to hit. I've always maintained the girls need to learn fastpitch in its entirety from the beginning because there is so much more to fastpitch and the girls need the reps. A young player needs to develop the quicker instincts needed to play this game and very few can make those adjustments with the flip of a coin. Repetition is key to girls learning and developing "game."

Coming from a community that finally converted their little league effort from slowpitch to fastpitch, I've watched the ladies make the transition and in many cases it wasn't pretty. My friend was a baseball dad and as many of us come to find out; having daughters can sometimes be construed as a cruel joke by the Almighty. Guys struggle to understand women. WOW! Yes, I said it for all to hear!

You are on the right track getting them started in our game. Step 2 will be to show no fear in being patient enough to help them make the transition. Make sure they know you're all in it together. Keep it fun, keep it light, and stay with the themes that have been shared by so many in your thread. It takes time for these kids to adjust but they will as long as they are having fun.
 
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I think it is good that they are 10u. They have plenty of time to learn. Good luck.
 
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Just a suggestion....

Find a 16U or 14U team that might be willing to come spend 30-60 minutes with the kids. Get them to interact with each other by their position. So have your shortstops go off and talk with their shortstop for a few. Have their pitcher talk to yours about lessons. Get them to swap stories, small talk, and get to know each other personally a little bit.

In my opinion, this would be beneficial to the older kids in allowing them to be a sort of role model and remind them of how far they've come. And it would would benefit the younger kids in showing them where hard work and focus can get them some day.
 
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Just a suggestion....

Find a 16U or 14U team that might be willing to come spend 30-60 minutes with the kids. Get them to interact with each other by their position. So have your shortstops go off and talk with their shortstop for a few. Have their pitcher talk to yours about lessons. Get them to swap stories, small talk, and get to know each other personally a little bit.

In my opinion, this would be beneficial to the older kids in allowing them to be a sort of role model and remind them of how far they've come. And it would would benefit the younger kids in showing them where hard work and focus can get them some day.
This is so true. I did this with my 10u team last year. I brought out a group of 16 year olds I was coaching and had them blast a bunch of 11" softballs over the fence (180' fence so it was kind of easy) with cheering etc...then I gathered all of the 10u players together and showed them a picture I had of the 16u kids when they were 10. Touching moment.
 
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then I gathered all of the 10u players together and showed them a picture I had of the 16u kids when they were 10. Touching moment.

STOP IT! Quit goin' and gettin' me all teary-eyed and such!

That's pretty awesome! Hats off.
 
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Coach Candrea has books and videos that cover almost every part of the game. I'd suggest checking out his library of information as well as going to the ASA website for suggested reading. Everyone on here has had to learn the game somehow and many have finally learned they can't coach girls the same as they may have coached boys in the past. Also, you'll find over time there IS a difference between baseball and fastpitch softball and you'll need to remember this to be good at coaching the game.

The other fact you have already touched on is the need to coach girls different than boys. I use the following analogy to explain the differences when giving a coaching clinic:

If you walk up on a group of young boys and pick one out, then instruct him to go run head on into a tree nearby, watch out for what will happen. Most young men will do what they are told, even if it's to show off for his buddies watching. The worst senario would mean you'd have to say "because I told you to" to insure he'll complete the task. Now walk up to a bunch of girls and point one out instructing her to run head first into a nearby tree. You'll almost always get a strange look followed by the question "why?" This in a nutshell is the difference between coaching boys and girls. Boys will react to a command, sometimes for the wrong reasons while a girl needs reason to react. If you explain the need to a girl on "why" she should run head on into a tree and it makes sense, she'll go run head on into a tree. One thing is for sure, she won't do it unless she understands "why." For this reason, I call all my clinics "Why" clinics because I take the time to explain the reasoning behind every facet of the game. Once a girl understands "why", she'll perform for you. Don't try to tell a girl to do it "because I said so" or you'll get the dreaded "stare." You don't want the "stare." That hollow look that has the gears turning behind their eyes while they try to determine if they can kill you and get away with murder. If you ever get the "stare", be sure to back up and retry your approach.

While I would be happy to help you in more detail if you'd like to im me for a more personal contact, I'd like to use this thread to point out something that has been a topic of debate by myself and one of my best friends in life. The subject has been the need to learn fastpitch and play the game at its earliest moment instead of playing slowpitch and converting at a later age. My friend has always campaigned that girls should play slowpitch until they become teenagers so they can develop the skills to field the ball and give them confidence at the plate to hit. I've always maintained the girls need to learn fastpitch in its entirety from the beginning because there is so much more to fastpitch and the girls need the reps. A young player needs to develop the quicker instincts needed to play this game and very few can make those adjustments with the flip of a coin. Repetition is key to girls learning and developing "game."

Coming from a community that finally converted their little league effort from slowpitch to fastpitch, I've watched the ladies make the transition and in many cases it wasn't pretty. My friend was a baseball dad and as many of us come to find out; having daughters can sometimes be construed as a cruel joke by the Almighty. Guys struggle to understand women. WOW! Yes, I said it for all to hear!

You are on the right track getting them started in our game. Step 2 will be to show no fear in being patient enough to help them make the transition. Make sure they know you're all in it together. Keep it fun, keep it light, and stay with the themes that have been shared by so many in your thread. It takes time for these kids to adjust but they will as long as they are having fun.

I can only say that you idea of fastpitch from the beginning is the way to go IMO.

I have 3 daughters:

13U - started out at tee ball and coach pitch slow.....started playing fastpitch at 9U, struggled all over until basically old 12.....now she is great but it took awhile
11U - started the same time as 13U on same team.....has only ever played fastpitch.......knows the game very well
10U - started last year......never played any sport until then.........she is progressing nicely and is ahead of 13U at this age for sure........but since we are consumed with the sport I think she just knew so much from watching.....but she did not really pick up a ball or put on a mitt until 9U.......we had to wait......now she pitches and catches......

I really think that playing any other form of softball is not great. With that said lots of great fastpitch players that started out in slow pitch or boys LL. I just think that my 11U that has 5 years of experience is so much ahead. This game is about knowing for certain the play at the crack of the bat. And there are 1,000s of unique situations. So you need to get a large data base to pull from. So the sooner you start building the data base the better you will be.

Ex.
Runners on 1st and 2nd.......2 outs ball hit to SS......what is the play?
If she goes in the hole it is 3rd.....as long as 3rd knows to get to the bag......if right at her maybe it is to 3rd, maybe a tag, maybe to first....how fast is hitter....how hard is the ball hit.....where is girls running from 2nd.....

As you can see a simple situation of girls at 1st and 2nd and 2 outs and ball hit to SS has an endless list of options and decisions needed to be made. And only a players that has lived through them all will make the easy play and look smooth. Not to mention toss to second........second basemen know what to do?.....seriously it is endless.

So why wait? And slow pitch does not help prepare you since there are no leadoffs, no stealing....no bunting....no special plays for slappers....I mean all slow pitch does is teach you to throw and catch.......how the heck does it do it better than fastpitch? Once you hit high level 12U and up you do not see any strike outs. 7 innings and 21 outs made on the field.
 

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