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Coaches- I see a lot of players made there varsity team as Freshman and that's great, but it's certainly possible that some of these players will be reserves. I'm sure both the parents (me included) and DD (mine included) want to make varsity all 4 years, but will that be best for them if playing time is very limited?

Would playing JV or Freshman be more valuable to them if they are playing every game versus watching a lot from the dug out? I see pitchers being impacted the most by sitting, but what about all the players?
 
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Just to be clear- obviously your DD will play where ever the coach wants/needs your DD to play. Looking for opinions on what's best for developing players. Thanks!
 
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I would prefer to play on JV than sit on varsity but unfortunately alot of times the parents don't find that acceptable, even if the kids are OK with it.
 
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Remember, every school has a different talent pool. A kid might make varsity at one school and be a starter as a freshman, if they attended another school they might be lucky if they make jv as a starter. Just because someone is a freshman doesn't mean they sit the bench on varsity. There are a lot of talented freshman out there this year, look at the Doom 96 for instance.
 
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I have seen southwestern Ohio JV softball and I would rather have my DD sit at varsity than play JV. This will not be true in all cases, but I would expect she would receive better coaching, better practice reps, and learn by watching better softball and work harder to earn playing time.
 
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I have seen good and bad Varsity as well as JV programs. You need to understand it depends on the structure of theses programs.
At our school there are no cuts... Last year 15 Varsity, 17 JV 18 Freshmen.
Unless you are a travel Freshman or very accomplished freshman your duty will consist of pinch running on varsity at best. (Not much that will help you long term).

Some JV programs like Mason, Fairfield and Colerain have good instructors/coaches. If the Varsity program is accomplished and the JV program has good coaching/instruction the player should go where she can play and gain instruction.

Granted JV competition is not what they will see at varsity and with smaller schools you may only have 10 or 11 on JV and only 3 or 4 players but; if you are not playing on varsity and not really a cog on the team the player will NOT get that many reps in practice as well while polishing the pine thus, they will not get that much out of the experience and in some cases they may get a negative experience when playing up.
 
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@JEMIII

As far as Central Ohio JV is concerned, I too would rather have my DD (should she still be in HS) sit on varsity than play at the JV level. With some notable exceptions, there generally isn't much pitching at JV and the pitching allows for a lot of bad habits to develop in the box. Also, because the whole game is pretty much slowed down, defensive skills can get a bit sloppy as well.

I know there are some very fine JV teams out there, but on the whole I think that playing JV is not better than being a non-starter on Varsity. Presumably someone on varsity will get some significant innings over the season. Except for that crazy situation referred to on another thread where there are going to be something like 18 girls on varsity. (But in that case, there isn't any JV team so . . .).
 
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My dd started jv last year as a freshman and loved it she played every game ,the head coach told her she was going to put her on varsity but she wouldnt get to play that much , although she would have liked to have gotten a letter she wanted to play all the time .Plus the peer pressure from upper classmen can be brutal. Proud to say she has been told she will start varsity this year as soph. The biggest difference i seen in varsity and jv is pitching some of the jv pitching is awfull and almost harder to hit because its to slow if your dd is a fastball hitter it can be a challenge.
 
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A lot depends on the size of the school. The bigger schools usually get more girls out for the program so the drop in skill level is not as steep as it is at smaller schools where the player pool is much smaller.

But......the main reason for JV is to develop players for the Varsity. To do that, players have to see meaninful playing time. All players!!! If you don't do this, then the player pool shrinks the next year and the next thing you know, there are not enough players for a JV team.

So, as much as everyone wants to win, a coach has to balance getting everyone that meaninful playing time versus getting a victory.
 
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My policy is a fr. Or so. Will not sit more then 1-2 games otherwise we send them down
 
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I asked my dd this question and she told me she'd rather sit and be called on when needed at the varsity level than play every minute at jv. She told me that she's good enough as a freshman to make varsity, just not good enough to over take the top talent.

The way I look at it, this is her choice, not mine. I'll support her in this decision.
 
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With having a freshman that is a 96, would of rather seen her set the bench than even attempt to face JV or Freshman pitching. The idea is to be ready for May 15th when Club Ball starts up, not that HS isn't important, but when your freshman has been facing the top arms during fall and winter tournaments playing up in 18U and Showcases, to have to go back down and face those other (42-48mph) arms, it will take longer to get her ready when summer starts. We all know there is a qualifier or two within the first 2 weeks of HS ball ending. Alot of kids that dont make Varsity as 96 Freshman, return to Club Ball for the spring and travel a lot to play ball on "Spring Teams". I'm only using 96 because that's this years 14U cut off. lol
 
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With having a freshman that is a 96, would of rather seen her set the bench than even attempt to face JV or Freshman pitching. The idea is to be ready for May 15th when Club Ball starts up, not that HS isn't important, but when your freshman has been facing the top arms during fall and winter tournaments playing up in 18U and Showcases, to have to go back down and face those other (42-48mph) arms, it will take longer to get her ready when summer starts. We all know there is a qualifier or two within the first 2 weeks of HS ball ending. Alot of kids that dont make Varsity as 96 Freshman, return to Club Ball for the spring and travel a lot to play ball on "Spring Teams". I'm only using 96 because that's this years 14U cut off. lol

The 48 mph pitch will help her work on her hitting change ups lol
 
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This is my dd's 3rd year playing MS ball (club team). Our MS team would have beaten our own JV team in the prior two years and it is probably true this year as well. Heck, a couple of us parents were watching the Community College team play last year and I swear our MS team would have had a good chance of beating them! The way I look at it, if she makes JV next year, it will honestly be a step back for her. Of course, what team she makes is up to her and what she does at try-outs next year. I do not want to see my dd take a step back. No pressure Jess......:lmao::lmao:

Len
 
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There really is no One Correct Answer. Conditions vary so much across the state. I know some schools who don't even have enough players to field a JV team - so everybody makes Varsity. Many schools don't have Freshamn Teams - just JV & V.

Some schools have a coach that fits well with the JV program (Player development) but have a lousy varsity coach. So why would you be in a hurry to play varsity? And on the other hand, there are schools where Varsity is the bee's knees - and the JV coach is nothing more than a baby-sitter.
 
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Some interesting points. I agree that if the talent level of the JV programs is poor that there might be no advantage to playing at the JV level. However, if the JV talent level is good, then I believe playing 25-27 JV games is more beneficial than sitting varsity. Yes, it would also depend on your JV coach, but fortunately I have a quality JV coach and we have good talent across the JV level in our area and therefor my policy is that freshmen and (usually) sophomores are only going to be placed on varsity if they are going to play. If we think they will sit varsity then they play JV.
 
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Louuuuu - I have to ask what is the "bee's knees"? I don't get out enough.
 
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It's the same as the Cat's Pajamas... or, the Greatest Thing Since Sliced Bread.

(Us old guys have a million cliche's that don't make any sense!)
 
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There are a lot of great points being made here. I'd like to share my thoughts. As mentioned in a few posts the size of the school and the numbers of girls that come out may dictate different ideals but generally speaking, it's normally in the best interest of the freshmen to play----not sit. This means at whatever level. I mentioned in another post that the girls normally are the ones that put enormous pressure on themselves to make varsity as a freshman as it must have a social stigma attached to it as strongly as it is a competitive thing. This is such a deal maker/breaker that some girls will quit playing softball if they DO NOT make the varsity squad as a freshman. I still believe many would benefit from adults in their lives being supportive by encouraging them to strive to play at any level rather than make it seem an insult to be placed on a reserve squad.

The bottom line; rep's are the best way to improve your skills and field time at any level is still better than sitting the bench. You cannot substitute anything for game situations----even if the skill level is not to your liking.

A good player will adapt, normally within the course of a game. To say a player can't hit less talented pitching makes coaches smile. Do you hear yourself? Great hitters adapt. Trust me, Crystal Bustos can hit your daughter's pitching, regardless of her age and talent level, and I'll give odds she can still play/hit at the international level. A truly talented freshman placed in a reserve or freshmen environment will "shine like a new penny" (since we're using old phrases) and simply improve her worth on a talent chart. This will increase her chances to be called up for action----not to sit.

That's what reserve and freshman teams can do for players as well as programs in general. They help develop the skills and provide opportunity.

Now, what do we do about a freshman that has something to offer at the varsity level as a roll player but not capable of replacing a regular at a position? As a coach, they need to give their varsity squad every opportunity to win so that means your freshman daughter will probably see selected appearances in varsity games. Don’t be offended by this but proud of the fact your daughter is able to contribute. There’s a lot to be said about the young players with fast/great base running skills or the exceptional bunt master. Perhaps your daughter is like a gazelle in the outfield or a cat in the infield but struggles with her stick. This is an opportunity for school coaches to utilize more people on their depth chart and “specialize” players per job at hand. The problem is; players like this need to work extra, away from the normal grind, to improve their status to a regular player. Because they will sit the bench sometimes more than they play, they need the extra to stay fresh and be ready when opportunity knocks.

Take pride in that pinch-running daughter when she gives the varsity squad a chance to win after a hitting specialist has given her an opportunity. That’s simply good coaching. After the game, hit the batting cages, then buy her a hot fudge sunday.
 

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