Hit by a pitch question

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If a pitched ball hits a batter (and it's not a strike nor swung and the batter tried to avoid being hit), can't the batter opt to not take the awarded base due to a "dead ball take your base" call from the plate umpire? Sorry, foggy on this one. :eek:
 
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Not sure.... always thought they had to take it. Never saw a girl refuse.
 
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We had our reasons to let her hit... Blue said we couldn't. One of the few rules I couldn't argue :cap::lmao:. So "I" think.
 
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I would want #15 to hit too coach...or any other on your team:)...way to mash the ball ladies!
 
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that's who it was... she was grazed and didn't need to walk it off. Thought I'd rather her hit and it was strategic :). None of the coaches I spoke with new the answer.
 
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I believe it is not optional. They MUST take their base. I'm thinking I asked an ump this question before...lol.
 
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Definitely not a choice under any level or sanction of baseball or fastpitch as far as I know.
 
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thanks y'all. I'm sure Bretman will hit us with the specifics but in this case it appears to be pretty straight forward.
 
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Interesting. At first glance, it looks like the batter automatically becomes a batter-runner when HBP (ASA 8.1.F). However, the ASA and NFHS wordings use entitled instead of the typical awarded (e.g. 4 balls - 8.1.C). Bretman?
 
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On a delayed dead ball award, ie. illeagal pitch, the coach has an option, dead ball awards there is no option.
 
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I'm with the rest...dead ball batter gets 1st, no choice. When the coach or player gets to choose the option, it is always specified in the rules as such but there are no specifications on that one. I've had batters ask if they could stay and hit instead and they are always told no, take your base.
 
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Interesting. At first glance, it looks like the batter automatically becomes a batter-runner when HBP (ASA 8.1.F). However, the ASA and NFHS wordings use entitled instead of the typical awarded (e.g. 4 balls - 8.1.C). Bretman?

thanks for digging this out. Can someone launch the Bretman signal into the clouds?
 
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ASA:
11.16 Hit Batter (by Pitch)
11.16.1 A batter is awarded first base when a pitched ball is entirely within the
batter’s box and it strikes the batter or her clothing. No attempt to avoid being
hit by the pitch is required however the batter may not obviously try to get hit
by the pitch (See Rule 11.16.3.1).
11.16.2 A batter is awarded first base when a pitched ball neither swung at nor
called a strike touches any part of the batter’s person or clothing while she is
in the batter’s box, except as noted in Rule 11.16.3 that follows.
EFFECT— (11.16.1-11.16.2)— The ball is dead. The batter is entitled to
first base without liability to be put out. Base runners may not
advance unless forced.
Notes:
1. It does not matter if the ball strikes the ground before hitting the batter.
2. The batter’s hands are not considered part of the bat.
3. If a batter swings and the ball hits her hands sending it into fair or foul
territory, the ball is dead and a strike is called on the batter. If it is strike three,
the batter is out.
11.16.3 The hit batter shall not be awarded first base under the following
circumstances:
11.16.3.1 The batter made no attempt to avoid the pitch (which is not entirely
in the batter’s box) or she obviously tried to get hit by the pitch (regardless
of its location).
EFFECT—The ball is dead. The pitch is a ball or strike (depending on
its location), and the batter remains at bat, except the batter
is declared out if the pitch was a third strike or the batter is
awarded first base if the pitch was “Ball four.” Base runners
advance if forced.


Len
 
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Len:

The part of this I didn't know involves the pitched ball "entirely" in the batters box or "not entirely" in the batters box. According to what you have up there, in one situation you don't have to try to avoid being hit and in the other you do have to try to avoid being hit.
 
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Len:

The part of this I didn't know involves the pitched ball "entirely" in the batters box or "not entirely" in the batters box. According to what you have up there, in one situation you don't have to try to avoid being hit and in the other you do have to try to avoid being hit.

That rule is new this year...One part of the HBP rule alot of people don't know is if they swing at a pitch (or turn the wrong way and the bat goes around) and the ball hits them, it is a strike. If strike 3, the batter just got hit and is still out.
 
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ASA:
11.16 Hit Batter (by Pitch)
11.16.1 A batter is awarded first base when a pitched ball is entirely within the
batter’s box and it strikes the batter or her clothing. No attempt to avoid being
hit by the pitch is required however the batter may not obviously try to get hit
by the pitch (See Rule 11.16.3.1).
Those are NCAA rules, not ASA.

I personally don't think it is optional - I'm just curious why the wording is different for HBP than BB.

11.16.1 was new last year for NCAA and has been adopted this year for NFHS. It has not been adopted by ASA yet.
 
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A batter hit by a pitch must go to first base. There's no option to continue batting if you want to.
 

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