HOT TOPIC sensitivity or old school?

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Is Mike Candrea 'new school' or 'old school'?
Is Geno Auriemma (UConn Huskies Bball coach) 'new school' or 'old school'?

We shouldn't confuse 'coaching excellence' and 'coaching ineptness' with old school tactics and new school approaches.

Demanding excellence is one thing, teaching excellence and achieving it is another.

By the way, how many of your bosses are 'old school', how many would be working for one it they were?

 

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The problem with trying to discuss this in terms of old school and new school is that there were terrible (and great) old school coaches when we were kids and there are terrible (and great) new school coaches now.

I don't want to endorse old school coaching if that is going to encourage some hack to scream at kids who make physical errors in a game because that is what his coach did when he was a kid. There are coaches out there with significantly less emotional control than the athletes they coach. If you do not have a purpose to raising your voice at a kid other than making yourself feel better, your not old school, your a jerk.

I don't want to endorse new school coaching if that is going to encourage some hack to not hold kids accountable for at least their attitude and effort because you are not allowed to criticize kids anymore because you have to be 100% positive. If your afraid that people/kids won't like you if your critical you have no business being a coach. You have to be critical when necessary to make the players better. They don't need someone just telling them how great they are 24/7 and not filling them in on what might make them better tomorrow than they are today.

 

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Its about holding players accountable for their actions, Im not one to yell at a kid, and it takes alot to get me to that point, All you can do as a coach is explain the fundamentals to a kid, and work those fundamentals in pratice, We as coaches cannot play the position for them. But they must understand that is why they are in the position they are in, its all about execution, whether its offensivly or defensivly, You have to understand what makes each kid tick and how to get the most from each. Some kids crumble under stricter coaches, while some thrive under it, it depends on their maturity , drive, and how many of the 5 tools they bring with them to the park. You cannot coach a T ball team in the same mannor you would teach a second year 16u.. But I will stick to my original earlier post , that coaches that try to be more PC and parent friendly do their young ladies a dis service ( at the older level ) I dont know of one team that goes to nationals and places well that are PC, if thats as important to a parent as skills then theres a large Rec-Ball following in the state of ohio

 

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Its about holding players accountable for their actions, Im not one to yell at a kid, and it takes alot to get me to that point, All you can do as a coach is explain the fundamentals to a kid, and work those fundamentals in pratice, We as coaches cannot play the position for them. But they must understand that is why they are in the position they are in, its all about execution, whether its offensivly or defensivly, You have to understand what makes each kid tick and how to get the most from each. Some kids crumble under stricter coaches, while some thrive under it, it depends on their maturity , drive, and how many of the 5 tools they bring with them to the park. You cannot coach a T ball team in the same mannor you would teach a second year 16u.. But I will stick to my original earlier post , that coaches that try to be more PC and parent friendly do their young ladies a dis service ( at the older level ) I dont know of one team that goes to nationals and places well that are PC, if thats as important to a parent as skills then theres a large Rec-Ball following in the state of ohio

In the context of your paragraph, I agree with everything you said, except I still don't know what your definition of 'parent friendly' and 'PC' is?

 

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Parent friendly is not being honest with a parent about his or her childs abilities, or playing his or her child because of parental complaints about playing time.
Political Corectnesss is having to wory so much about the thin skin of a player or parent you again arnt truthful with your statements. or have to be careful of offending their tender sensabilities.........

 

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In the context of your paragraph, I agree with everything you said, except I still don't know what your definition of 'parent friendly' and 'PC' is?

The term SUGAR COATING comes to mind. Politically Correct is equal time for every players even though they are not equal that means if the parents think their daughter don't like to run they don't have to and the coach is cool with that. Seen this in several teams and it does nothing but bring the players down who want to get better better they become discouraged and want to quit.

After the game we will all go to McDonalds for ice cream "win or lose".

JMO

 

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Parent friendly is not being honest with a parent about his or her childs abilities, or playing his or her child because of parental complaints about playing time.
Political Corectnesss is having to wory so much about the thin skin of a player or parent you again arnt truthful with your statements. or have to be careful of offending their tender sensabilities.........

Ok, I agree that a coaches inability to deal with the issues you listed above will ultimately destroy a team.

But I think you would also agree that there are plenty of examples on this forum over the years of very talented teams, with very knowledgeable coaches, that imploded either mid-season or post-season because the coach couldn't manage the 'people side' of running the team.

We agree on the 'what', but I think the 'how' its delivered is just as important to the overall longterm success, chemistry of a team.

To your earlier post - Coaches have to bring tools to a team too - maybe we should figure out what the 5 tools are for a coach. It would be a interesting discussion I am sure.

 

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The term SUGAR COATING comes to mind. Politically Correct is equal time for every players even though they are not equal that means if the parents think their daughter don't like to run they don't have to and the coach is cool with that. Seen this in several teams and it does nothing but bring the players down who want to get better better they become discouraged and want to quit.

After the game we will all go to McDonalds for ice cream "win or lose".

JMO

A bad coach is a bad coach whether they are old school or new school. These are bad coaches.

 

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origanally posted by bouldersdad
Its about holding players accountable for their actions, Im not one to yell at a kid, and it takes alot to get me to that point, All you can do as a coach is explain the fundamentals to a kid, and work those fundamentals in pratice, We as coaches cannot play the position for them. But they must understand that is why they are in the position they are in, its all about execution, whether its offensivly or defensivly, You have to understand what makes each kid tick and how to get the most from each. Some kids crumble under stricter coaches, while some thrive under it, it depends on their maturity , drive, and how many of the 5 tools they bring with them to the park. You cannot coach a T ball team in the same mannor you would teach a second year 16u.. But I will stick to my original earlier post , that coaches that try to be more PC and parent friendly do their young ladies a dis service ( at the older level ) I dont know of one team that goes to nationals and places well that are PC, if thats as important to a parent as skills then theres a large Rec-Ball following in the state of ohio

Bouldersdad great reply, get to know the kids, ask the parents, past coaches, find out what buttons to push. Show the kids how?, tell them why?, help them correct mistakes, and make them responsible.