Instructors in Ohio

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Sometimes people just need to be told to shut up.

 

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Seriously? Now you act like you were setting us all up? I ain't buying it.

 

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"Kabota offers a lot and yet is looked down upon by others for instance, so if you had a choice to see them or work one on one with them would it be worth it?"

I am not sure who you are referring to when you mentioned Kabota, but I know there is a coach named Kobata that spends quite a lot of time in the Midwest during the fall and winter months who is highly respected. Even though he kept telling my daughter that she was TooooooSloooooooowwwww!!!!!!

My buddy took his DD to a clinic and said that was the main theme. And that some parents had a real issue with him telling their DDs to pick up the pace.
I have watched a couple of his videos and I really like what he teaches. How anyone can act like he does not teach good stuff is beyond me. Lets see, good foot work leads to better positions which leads to faster releases which leads to more outs. Sounds about right to me. You play Defense with your feet.

 

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My buddy took his DD to a clinic and said that was the main theme. And that some parents had a real issue with him telling their DDs to pick up the pace.
I have watched a couple of his videos and I really like what he teaches. How anyone can act like he does not teach good stuff is beyond me. Lets see, good foot work leads to better positions which leads to faster releases which leads to more outs. Sounds about right to me. You play Defense with your feet.

DD has been to a few of his clinics. He's great and most of the girls love him. He doesn't mince words or coddle the kids but he knows his stuff and is a terrific instructor.

 

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Why is everyone taking this so serious If you look in the top 50 High schools there are 3 from Ohio most teams are from the west coast and south were they can play outside most of the year there is some truth to what, play too, is saying.

 

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Why is everyone taking this so serious If you look in the top 50 High schools there are 3 from Ohio most teams are from the west coast and south were they can play outside most of the year there is some truth to what, play too, is saying.

But in 2008, how many Ohio teams were there in the top 50 (presuming this post orginated then as stated)? So which came first, the instructors or girls leaving the state to face better competition?

 

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From my experience,Howard's a little hard to take for the younger ladies and overprotective parents,If you get a compliment youve typicly earned it from Howard,He's usually right when he says tooo sloow,or too many steps,we never pass up a chance to get pushed hard by Howard ,I get a kick out of just listening to him.Bob Hoiles is a little better for the younger ones.As far as talent in Ohio it's here just spread out,and im sure better educated.

 

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Totally agree with squish the bug and elbow up saw a girl as a freshman play pretty well when she was squishing the bug now that someone has changed her all she does is slap and bunt .Until alot of Ohio girls start playing for serious d 1 schools you can't bash him for what he is saying, how many girls from Ohio are going to play for a D1 contender besides Ms Lilly from Hoover this year probably not many.

 

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Totally agree with squish the bug and elbow up saw a girl as a freshman play pretty well when she was squishing the bug now that someone has changed her all she does is slap and bunt .Until alot of Ohio girls start playing for serious d 1 schools you can't bash him for what he is saying, how many girls from Ohio are going to play for a D1 contender besides Ms Lilly from Hoover this year probably not many.

Might want to read his/her posts.. No one argued his he/she is right or wrong.
1. His tactics of everyone being wrong. I.e. Bustos ****s
2. No one knows anything in Ohio. I.e. Her husband knows it but her DD is still looking for a coach
3. Used someone else's ID trying to discredit a coach
4. Asking for names of coaches then discrediting them.
Was fun making him look like an A$$ he/ she is...but now getting boared.

Mike Choe.. Maybe he or she will tell us who he/she is so we can learn from his/ she great knowledge.

MY DD's **** at softball under your criteria but they will win in life when they are practicing their craft after a Degree.
notice we don't know if it's he or she...after you call people out, have the nads to tell people who you are. LOL

Mike Choe 2nd time.

 

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:lmao:

 

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Until alot of Ohio girls start playing for serious d 1 schools you can't bash him for what he is saying, how many girls from Ohio are going to play for a D1 contender besides Ms Lilly from Hoover this year probably not many.

You obviously haven't been paying close attention have you. You're forgetting SEVERAL Ohio girl that are now or have gone D1. You're forgetting Tess Sito, Kara Dill (both from Lorain County I may add), Erin Gabriel, Fowler; now you have Cunningham, Lilly, Eggins, Webster, etc. Check out the Outlaws website, I believe we have 12 girls alone.

I understand why you're defending Play-Two, but we're not in '08 anymore. We have a great PGF director and president who's laying a strong foundation for future Ohio D1 recruits.

 

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Again that not a lot of girls...I'm pretty sure my criticisms have never been in regards to the players. Of course there are some girls with d1 rides..there are a lot of d1 schools now...more than in 08 for sure so factor that also. My criticism has been aimed at instructors..not players

 

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anyone remember these? problem is that person was contacted and knows nothing about the posts...

 

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Here's where we have a disconnect. I am telling you that if you charge for a service and you don't do what you say you do then you are open to criticism and the names you and others gave are not good instructors and they fill parent's with terrible information and make it difficult for a PC or HC to give proper instruction without having to bad mouth the other coach...or educate the parent. Truly wasting time. Again as I have said a 100 times Not All....but those who like to argue don't see that I'm not saying All. You have Gillis and Hillhouse..I know this...but Hillhouse teaches many many things that I don't like. I have no idea about Gillis. I have heard that you get no 1on 1 time as he goes 4 at a time. Not sure. And I don't know how much good 1 lesson a year or month with Hillhouse really helps? Does he film you? Does he break down game film? The answer is no. He teaches bicep to the ear...a huge no no. That creates a terrible arm circle. I don't care much for some of his instruction and I find it to be wrong. That's just my option. So why get mad about it?

My daughter and I took lessons directly from Gillis and his excellent staff of instructors for 8 yrs. He would work 2 at a time never more than that during our lessons. I know you can also have one on one time with him if requested. He also offers video analysis instruction. Not sure about the statement you make about Hillhouse teaching bicep to ear being a big no no. I have attended well over 200 hours of pitching clinics over my coaching career and the commonality of each teaches having two brush points in which the bicep should brush close to the ear and the forearm brushes the thigh. This creates the perfect arm circle. Gillis teaches what you call IR since you want the wrist to snap and not the elbow to push the ball through the zone. If you have studied countless video over the years like I have then you can begin to see the difference in styles of pitching along with different factors that can add or take away from speed and location accuracy. However no one style works for everyone. Just watch some of the top pitchers playing at the college and NPF level. You can see what they all have in common: for a drop ball example - at release the shoulders are at a 45 degree angle and the elbow is buried into their side so as to be hidden from the catcher pov. At release the arm stops briefly while the wrist snaps. These are but a few absolutes when you break things down each one has in common. From the statements you do make it sounds as if you have actual limited experience with pitching and hitting knowledge.

 

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That's not me. What's the point

 

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Where did you state who you are then? We know you're not John Behling, but that wasn't you posting either right,,,, ok.

 

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Your first posts are gone... Hmm. New laptop huh, ok different ip. Yea I'm lazy. Hey no problem, keep bashing everyone in ohio and have fun with it. I still don't get the point of your rants on here. I mean hey if you can't get any help that your looking for then just go away. Maybe we are better off not knowing all that you know, ignorance is bliss right. Hey Fla Rays, who is this person and their affiliation, I guess you should know. With that being said, enjoy the rants if you continue to do so.

 

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I have no idea who you are talking about...the very first thread I posted my name, email and affiliation because fla rays was going to send me a list...he never did. Now if this is a case of mistaken identity ..let's move on because now people are chiming in and have no clue with they are talking about and now you are confusing me. I stand by what I say...the hitting and pitching instruction in Ohio is very bad. Now you may have a few good ones.
...I hear Tim Duncan is very good..I have no clue...but he cant teach everyone...it has to be more than a couple. As a whole its terrible. That's my point and I know all about IR and this guy is talking about styles don't fit all and he shows his ignorance with his statements by confusing styles with absolutes. Care less about a wind up...I don't wanna see bicep to the ear..that does not create the proper arm circle...I wanna see ball facing home at 12... I want palm to sky at 9 elbo bent..NOT STRAIGHT and I want palm to ground after release...I don't like Hillhouse finish to oppo shoulder either..it promotes throwing across the body instead of whipping through.. I do teach brush interference at the thigh...this guys acting as if he discovered something I don't know??? Out

Your medication is wearing off.

Mike Choe RPh. Look I'm not hiding.:lmao: