OSHAA rule question regarding player being on a VB club team.

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I'm torn on this as well. I understand and am willing to make concessions for early leaving of practice...but leaving games for VB practice is going a bit to far and I'm just not quite sure how to deal with it. If we had alot of pitching it would be a little easier, but that isn't the case.

The main thing is for the coach to be consistent.
Having a revolving door policy that changes depending on the player or who the team is they are playing is what gets coaches in hot water.

At the preseason team meeting with the parents and players as the coach goes over eligibility information they should also lay out their expectations (whatever they may be) and manage to those expectations.

If a coach does not have any issues with Varsity players missing practice or leaving games early for other activities that is their decision however;they cannot get upset when others start to do the same?

JV is a great option for players that want to just be part time.

 

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The3dm- I've heard that as well....pitchers shouldn't play volleyball. Not to highjack this thread, but I wonder if there are any other pitchers out there who have encountered this problem or, is it just an old wives tale.

Shoulder injuries occur in volleyball for girls that do not pitch as well. It's more about improper mechanics than anything else. If you have proper mechanics and work out your entire body properly the chances of injury reduce dramatically.

If a child decides on their own to focus on one sport that is totally up to them and it is totally acceptable. If coaches are pressing kids to focus on one sport I do not consider it acceptable. A child should be able to choose what they want to do and to be honest with you college coaches actually like seeing multi-talented kids. By no means am I saying it is okay to leave a school game early or miss a school game entirely for club practice. A school coach should have a set policy for his/her team pertaining to practices and games, as should the club coach, and it should be up to the athlete and parents to figure it all out. The smart club coaches hold later practices and attend Sunday tournaments during school season to maximize athlete turnout.

Len

 

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Len,

While I will agree that many girls end up with shoulder injuries from VB that are not pitchers, but very seldom is it due to poor mechanics. The nature of the hitting motion with the sudden stop/reversal is where the problem lies. These injuries are much more common with MH as they seldom are able to take an approach and must generate all the power from their arm, wrist & shoulder.

Your comment about the "smart coaches" attending Sunday tournaments is only appropriate for lower end teams. A good coach chooses the tournaments to get the kids recognition and most of the quality tournaments are Sat/Sun events. A player that is top shelf talent will be playing for top shelf teams if they are serious about the sport. There are clubs that solely play lower end (4 court or less) tournaments that can accommodate the multi-sport athlete, but the level of play is much less physically demanding. IMHO

 

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Len,

While I will agree that many girls end up with shoulder injuries from VB that are not pitchers, but very seldom is it due to poor mechanics. The nature of the hitting motion with the sudden stop/reversal is where the problem lies. These injuries are much more common with MH as they seldom are able to take an approach and must generate all the power from their arm, wrist & shoulder.

Your comment about the "smart coaches" attending Sunday tournaments is only appropriate for lower end teams. A good coach chooses the tournaments to get the kids recognition and most of the quality tournaments are Sat/Sun events. A player that is top shelf talent will be playing for top shelf teams if they are serious about the sport. There are clubs that solely play lower end (4 court or less) tournaments that can accommodate the multi-sport athlete, but the level of play is much less physically demanding. IMHO

I agree, but all I said was that it would reduce injury dramatically, not eliminate them. Maybe the word "dramatically" is a bit harsh. Maybe it would be better just to say "reduced". In reality, all sports create injuries in some fashion.

I also agree with Sunday tournaments being appropriate for lower end (regional) teams. If a HS kid is playing club VB or BB at a national level or maybe even an American level, chances are that they have reduced themselves to one sport....not all but most. As a matter of fact, I will be at the MEQ this weekend in Indianapolis with my older dd. It would be impossible to play the level of VB she plays and the associated tournaments and play a school winter and spring sport. She plays multiple day tournies from January (Ice Breakers) through June (ASICS Nationals).

Len

 

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A school handbook policy or team rule from the coach would define the answer you are looking for. No OHSAA rule says you can't do club volleyball and school softball, we've established that.

It's up to you whether a commitment to the school softball team is a top priority to your family. If you decide you don't want to take your school commitment that serious, there should be no issue if you are told you are being cut from the roster. No big deal-------unless you are being selfish in your decisions. There are 2 totally different commitments here with different meanings. If you truly want to represent your school and community in competition, you'll have no issue with telling the club that you pay to allow you to play that you will not be available for participation if there is any conflict with the school sport or if there are any restrictions due to school or coaching policies on the matter. Find this stuff out early and accept it.

For school coaches; be sure to inform any girls that sign up for your sport what the policy is on the matter and I suggest you put it in writing and ask the girls to take the team rules home, have the parents sign off on them, and have a record that a slip was returned agreeing to things. It's always best to have things documented. Most schools have handbook rules that every student athlete is to accept before they can play any sport in school. Ignorance is no excuse.

The choice is really yours and in many school districts is well defined. I don't understand why people continue to buck the system but I don't understand why people that get caught speeding think every stretch of road they drive is a speed trap. lol.