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LADY_KNIGHTS said:[quote author=cshilt link=1196101528/0#8 date=1196172000][quote author=bo6608 link=1196101528/0#6 date=1196122281][highlight]As for the turn-over drop, I was told that after breaking the mechanics of a turn-over drop down on video it was actually a peel drop with the turn over motion happening after the ball had left the hand.[/highlight] No contact with the ball during the motion means it is just a poor follow thru that will risk injury. The peel is a natural motion and will allow your arm to decelerate properly and avoid injury
Exactly. Here is a video of Cat Osterman throwing her drop ball. Watch her hand at the point where the video slows down and you'll see that at the point of release she is throwing a peel drop, after the release she rolls her wrist over.
http://www.fast-pitch.com/images/drop_ball_osterman.wmv
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I have to somewhat disagree with this....If the video was a little more clear, at her hand, you would actually be able to see that Cat is actually turning the ball over, "spinning" it with her fingers. The turn over is being created with her fingers before her wrist ever turns over. Hillhouse himself states that the spin is created with the fingers and not the wrist.
If you really focus on the fingers in this video, you will see the fingers starting to turn the ball over.[/quote]
The peel/turn over drop info i posted earlier was not my research. It was something I heard from one of the Gillis satellite instructors. I don?t know how true it is or even if Gillis endorses the viewpoint. My only real exposure to pitching coaches has been with Gillis and Hillhouse. They are very similar instructors and both teach the peel drop.
Ifubuildit & Lady Knights,
I respect and enjoy all of your posts. It is clear that you are very knowledgeable and have been at this a long time.
Elliott,
I know you are from out west and the success of the teams in your neck of the woods speaks for itself. Is the peel or the turn-over more predominate in Texas? And which do you teach?
I?m asking because (with my limited knowledge) it seems the peel is a superior method. It seems to be more natural, easier to learn, with more potential for fingers to generate rpm?s. Is the turn over better in your opinion? Are there advantages of one over the other?
Thanks