Penn State's field

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How can such a large school have a stadium no better than some middle school fields here? After seeing some of the stadiums on the BTN theirs is the worst...

 

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I think Northwestern's is the worst but in fairness the outlook for softball in the Big Ten will improve the facilities a whole lot. Several have great plans for improvement that will bring then up to OSU standards soon.

 

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OSU is by far the leader plus they are the biggest with the money to support the programs. I watched that same telecast and I was thinking the same thing. That may be why most of the teams want to play at OSU to see what the Buckeyes have.

 

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I was amazed how underdeveloped their facility was! Most softball programs "piggyback" a large portion of their funds from the success of the football program. With OSU's continued football successes, it's no surprise that a big chunk of the funding eventually trickled down.

Maybe Joe Pa isn't a big softball supporter? Who knows?

 

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I didn't see the game, but does anyone have any pics of the stadium?

 

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Here is a link to it..... Picktown makes them look like bad news bears....

http://www.gopsusports.com/facilities/lion-field.html

 

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I think Northwestern's is the worst but in fairness the outlook for softball in the Big Ten will improve the facilities a whole lot. Several have great plans for improvement that will bring then up to OSU standards soon.

Actually have you been to Northwestern's lately? They have the best playing surface in the conference and AceGRC, Michigan's stadium is a year old and twice the size of OSU's and nicer.

 

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All I can say is "Title 9"

 

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Boy, it's nice to be is the same group as you guys. As I was watching the game I kept thinking, "Why did these girls want to play at Penn State? The field was a throwback to rec ball." I was watching the Radford/Winthrop game on CBSCollege and it was really tiny with the Norfolk and Western tracks immediately past the right field fence. What was funny was the guys going by in the locomotive, stopped to watch the game. One of the Big 10 fields has a what looks like a trainyard right next to it as well. I can't remember which one.

 

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I have seen BETTER rec ball fields then That. I was thinking was this a back up field, was something damaged at the main PSU field? Guess Not. It did look bad on TV

 

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Yeah, I loved it with the guy behind the backstop in the chair with his feet propped up against the chainlink. How many times has that been us over the years in rec league and travel ball? LOL!

 

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Notice that the name of the field is "Nittany Lion Field"? That's because no one has donated a nice chunk of money to improve it. Title IX gives funds for student scholarships, not much at all for facilities. Funds for facilities are mainly from the private sector and a very small amount from the state, if it is a state school. Someone with deep pockets needs to sponsor the field.


Len

 

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... with the Norfolk and Western tracks immediately past the right field fence. What was funny was the guys going by in the locomotive, stopped to watch the game. One of the Big 10 fields has a what looks like a trainyard right next to it as well. I can't remember which one.

Did you hear that Norfolk & Western acquired the Waypal Delivery Service? Now when you need something absolutely and positively delivered overnight there is Norfolk & Waypal.

 

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Notice that the name of the field is "Nittany Lion Field"? That's because no one has donated a nice chunk of money to improve it. Title IX gives funds for student scholarships, not much at all for facilities. Funds for facilities are mainly from the private sector and a very small amount from the state, if it is a state school. Someone with deep pockets needs to sponsor the field.


Len

What............. Title 9 is not scholarship money...infact High Schools have used Title 9

 

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What............. Title 9 is not scholarship money...infact High Schools have used Title 9

I should have worded it differently. Title IX is part of the educational amendments. It covers many areas pertaining to federal financial assistance, but for college athletics it basically states that scholarship money needs to be allocated appropriately. So in essence, it is a scholarship requirment that needs to be satisfied pertaining to collegiate sports between the sexes and sports.

Len

 

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Yeah Len, I noticed it was named Penn State Field too. I guess its JoePa or nothing in Happy Valley.

 

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Yeah Len, I noticed it was named Penn State Field too. I guess its JoePa or nothing in Happy Valley.

Yup....

 

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Sorry I cant Help myself.

Intercollegiate Athletics
Title IX governs the overall equity of treatment and opportunity in athletics while giving schools the flexibility to choose sports based on student body interest, geographic influence, budget restraints, and gender ratio. In other words, it is not a matter of women being able to participate in wrestling or that exactly the same amount of money is spent per women's and men's basketball player. Instead, the focus is on the necessity for women to have equal opportunities as men on a whole, not on an individual basis.
In regard to intercollegiate athletics, there are three primary areas that determine if an institution is in compliance:

athletic financial assistance
accommodation of athletic interests & abilities
other program areas
Appraisal of compliance is on a program-wide basis, not on a sport-by-sport basis.

While many resources have been written specific for intercollegiate sports, the general components of Title IX apply to interscholastic sport as well.

I. Financial Aid
First, financial assistance must be awarded based on the number of male and female athletes. The test is financial proportionality. The total amounts of athletics aid must be substantially proportionate to the ratio of male and female athletes.
II. Accommodation of Interests & Abilities
Second, the selection of sports and the level of competition must effectively accommodate the students' interests and abilities. There are 3 factors that are looked at consecutively.
Whether the intercollegiate level participation opportunities for male and female students are provided in numbers substantially proportionate to their respective enrollments.
Where the members of one sex have been and are underrepresented among intercollegiate athletes, whether the institution can show a history and continuing practice of program expansion which is demonstrably responsive to the developing interests and abilities of that sex.
Where the members of one sex are underrepresented among intercollegiate athletes and the institution cannot show a continuing practice of program expansion, whether it can be demonstrated that the interests and abilities of the members of that sex have been fully and effectively accommodated by the present program.
III. Other Areas
Third, all other benefits, opportunities, and treatments afforded sports participants are to be equivalent, but not necessarily identical. Title IX specifically looks at the following program components:

Equipment & Supplies: quality, suitability, quantity, availability, maintenance, & replacement.
Scheduling of Games & Practice Time: number of competitive events per sport, number and length of practice opportunities, time of day competitive events and practice opportunities are scheduled, opportunities to engage in available pre-season and post-season competition, the season a sport is scheduled, & the length of season.
Travel & Per Diem Allowances: modes of transportation, housing furnished during travel, length of stay before and after competitive events, per diem allowances, & dining arrangements.
Opportunity to Receive Academic Tutoring: availability of tutoring, tutor qualifications and experience, rates of pay, & employment conditions.
Opportunity to Receive Coaching, Assignment, & Compensation: availability, assignment, & compensation of full-time coaches, assistants, graduate assistants, or restricted earnings coaches.
Locker Rooms, Practice, & Competitive Facilities: quality, availability, exclusivity of use, maintenance and preparation of facilities.
Medical & Training Facilities and Services: quality and availability of medical personnel; athletic trainers; weight and conditioning facilities; training facilities; & health, accident, and injury insurance coverage.
Housing & Dining Facilities and Services: housing and dining benefits available during the regular year, the provision of pre-game and post-game meals, & housing and dining services provided when classes are not in session.
Publicity: availability and quality of sports information personnel, access to publicity resources, & quantity and quality of publications and other promotional devices.
Support Services: administrative support, clerical and secretarial support, office space, equipment and supplies, & availability of other support staff.
Recruitment of Student-Athletes: opportunities for coaches or other personnel to recruit, whether financial and other resources are equivalently adequate, & treatment of prospective student-athletes.

 

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Parma

I don't understand the point you are trying to make. I was only talking about a very small section of Title IX. The point I was trying to make was that a very small amount of federal financial assistance is put into the facilities. The majority of the money comes from private donations, and private donations are not governed by Title IX.

Funds for facilities are mainly from the private sector and a very small amount from the state, if it is a state school. Someone with deep pockets needs to sponsor the field.

 

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Locker Rooms, Practice, & Competitive Facilities: quality, availability, exclusivity of use, maintenance and preparation of facilities.

Equipment & Supplies: quality, suitability, quantity, availability, maintenance, & replacement.

I mean if the baseball field is a mutimillion dollar stadium, and the Softball field is nothing more then a little league field,,,I think they could have a case under the quality aspect of Title IX.