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My daughter is considering playing college ball. She is a Junior now. Any tips for getting noticed by coaches? Should she conact them directly once she considers a school? Are profiles beneficial? How about videos? Do we include GPA and ACT/SAT scores? High school or travel ball stats? How about showcase tourneys? Any feedback from someone who has been through the process would be appreciated.
 
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My daughter was approached by a scout last year in Toledo and filled out a card for information for him . After him contacting us a few months later he did find out she was way to young to be talking to ( 8th grade ) her. I have his card and infromation on it if you would like it so you could ask him some questions .Let me know.
 
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Get a copy of Cathy Aradi's book, "Preparing to Play College Softball" and do what it says to do. You can do a search for Cathy Aradi and all the info you need is in the book.
 
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Your GPA/SAT/ACT scores are very important as most college coaches want a sure thing when they are talking about aid of any kind. ?Hopefully your high school has a good setup for this in the guidance office for colleges and recruitment.

Your high school coach or travel coach can be a great source, depending on the time they have and connections. ?Don't underestimate the power of self marketing though.
Videos are good, contacts of interest to any college or university through emails and "specific sport feelers" usually get the ball rolling. ?There are also college marketing services - Josh Jackson, former punter for Ohio State, did a nice job with this a few years ago and I think he still does this - there is a fee, but it is worth it, especially in "non-revenue sports".

If your DD has any friends playing college ball, a recommendation to a coach can help.
College athletes and prospective athletes are usually asked to fill out information on "who have you played with and who have you played against" that you would recommend.

You could have already heard this - college coaches don't have the time in season to see a player due to their schedule, so summer may be the only time your daughter can be scouted. ?On rare occasions I have had a coach come to high school games to see a player, but that was local only. ?Try to find out a summer schedule of tournaments coaches will attend, and give the prospective choices your schedule. ?Summer travel seasons (soph/junior) prior to senior year of high school provide best results.

Camps and Clinics at a University is also a good way of communication. ?Coaches will notice - start early. ?Remember, a prospective athlete can make on-site contacts at their will, coaches are limited - ie:self market with camps,clinics, and visits.

It is not as simple as a couple paragraphs, just a few ideas. ?
Something that hasn't change though, in last 30 years - coaches look for
academics, speed, explosion, athletic potential, and what they view as "talent".
 
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Randyvw,
I am in a similiar situation. since my daughter is now a junior in HS. I purchased 2 very good books that have helped me considerably. They are, ATHLETIC RECRUITING 8 COLLEGE SCHOLARSHIP GUIDE by Robert L. Scott. the other one is, THE SPORTS SCHOLARSHIPS, Insiders Guide by Dion Wheeler.
Basically they recommend after deciding on which colleges you may want to try, have your daughter (and YOU) write them and introduce yourself with a resume type attachment. The first book has above has some examples. My daughter has done that already and has received several responses back from colleges not only in Ohio, but PA, TN, NC and NY. The responses are basically just to keep in contact or fill out a profile for them and return it. Nothing concrete but it gets her name out there for them to keep watching.
Not only did the books suggest this but her Travel Coach also instructed her to send letters out back during the summer.
GCKA is right on the money, according the books I have on the subject. I will add that you may want to check out the college board website to get a lot of information about each particular college along with address and website for each one. Also, you may want to check out the NCAA website to check eligibility requirements, and course requirements. I think there a some changes for 2008 graduates. I also checked with my daughter's HS guidance office to make sure she had the course requirements and GPA. She is going to retake the SAT and ACT to try and get them up as well.
I think in every letter she has received they all mentioned that more than anything she must work to have the best GPA as possible. In fact one coach more or less said she had to have at least a 3.5 since that was the Softball teams average.

Anyway, good luck and I hope this helps, but most of all you are not alone in all this, and market your daughter if she wants to play at that level.
 
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randyvw said:
?Do we include GPA and ACT/SAT scores? ?

You bet. ?If they are good, put them in BOLD. ?I loved the following comment on another thread:

"If they score high on ACT, make it stand out so that the coach notices. I sat at a game this summer where a college coach made a comment about the girl up to bat to the summer coach. The comment was 'great test score'."

BTW, SAT's are just as good as ACT's. ?If your DD scores well on the first set of tests she takes, there is generally no need to take the other one. ?I HIGHLY recommend some kind of test preparation course. ?It doesn't have to be pricey; fortunately some very good instructors at Mount Vernon HS offer a prep course every year here. ?I think they charge $50. ?It has the advantage of getting the student focused on the upcoming test AND I really believe that being familiar with the test format is worth significant points on the test. ?Our two kids took the MVHS prep course and scored in the top 1% and 3% on the SAT's. ?I really don't think they would have done so well without the course. ?

Oh, and here is the link to the thread that had the quote above. ?The thread has additional stuff that responds to your question: ?http://www.game-ex.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1160165238/1#1

Finally, your daughter should absolutely contact the schools in which she is interested. Emails with a profile attached seem to work well. Send me a Private Message if you want me to email the profile that we used for our DD, who is now playing Division III ball.
 
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these are some great tips, my dd is also a junior and i'm going thru this process.
Its great to have a place like this forum to come to and have such great people share their stories and help you along the process. keep the ideals coming.
I'm finding with both parents and the dd helping this is almost a full time job and sometimes overwelming. But to see the dd so excited is worth the time.
 
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For those of you that have been through this, I have a question. At what age or grade level, should we start preparing for college scholarships? Are there some mistakes that you made, that we should know about, to avoid? And, are there things you would have done differently, knowing what you know now? Also, looking ahead. Do any of you think that going to a private school is an advantage when it comes to scholarships for girls sports?
 
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We are in the process now, DD is Junior.....started with few college camps as 8th and 9th grader, got more frequent as sophomore.....also made point of having her on team that has same goals....to get kids recruited....ie. bulk of schedule are high profile showcases, ASA tourneys and top competition tourneys, yep we travel alot.....starting in 9th grade DD and dad compiled list of schools by size, location, academic offerings ( my DD tentatively wants larger school, not necessarily right next door but around 4-6 hours away, and wants to major in premed or PT.....) Then they sent her profile with picture, teams she is on, records and her personal stats, including travel and HS, any honors, GPA and eventually ACT score, in addition coachs she works with, HS, travel, pitching, trainer...with phone # and email, also her tournament schedule. This is updated every season and re-sent as the list of schools are refined. She has started this year going on visits (unofficial) and doing individule showcases when invited...usually if you contact a school they respond by inviting you to camp or a "showcase " camp.....We have been pretty successful with this approach as she has an offer for full 4 years scholarship plus books @ large D11 school in Michigan with good rep, and sincere interest from @ least 3 other schools....now we are going on more visits with appts with coaches so she can hopefully make the right decision for her and her college career...most importantly in our way of thinking is the academics.....if she can't have the programing she wants or doesn't feel like the school will give her the college experience she wants, or if she meets coach and really doesn't "click" with them, then that isn't the place to go...yep we have been on the road almost every weekend since mid August, but if she is happy with her final decision it will be worth it.
Thank God for email, a place to start is with the school's website, where their info is listed, camps, rosters, coaches , addresses, etc......Oh , also we go to college games of schools we are interested in....this way you can evaluate the coach and see if you like their style. We did a camp @ OSU about 4 years ago, very well ran, ended with recruitment lecture...the thing that I remember is the coach saying "' don't tell me you want to play for me if your have never come to watch my team play....." She also encouraged the girls that if it was a home game for the school they were looking @, make a point of speaking to coach after the game so they know your are interested enough to come and watch... We do have DVD of DD and send it when it is requested...also include a return self addressed envelop, many schools do return them with a note...feedback is alway good, OSU coach also said don't send me a tape unless I ask...or it may wind up in circular file.
Now before each showcase, big tourney, etc, an invitation is sent to each coach that she is interested in or has expressed interest in her to "come watch me play", many want regular emails from the prospective players with updates on how their season is going wheither travel or HS, and interestingly enough the ones that we regular communicate with always ask "how is school going....how are your grades"....Oh well, good luck it has really been fun going to the different schools and games and we will probably miss not having the time together when she actually does go away to school. Hopefully she will choose a place where we can watch her play frequently as there is nothing better to do on a sunny day!
 
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LUVFPSB that's a great reply with good information. For ourselves we have some time to start formulating a plan. It looks like our first goal is to be prepared academically. Thank you for taking the time to post.
 
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LUVFPSB - if your DD is only a Junior, how could she have been offered a full 4 year scholarship by a DII school ? I believe that is against NCAA regs.
 
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I don't know about scholarships, but I was sure I had heard before that you can sign a letter of intent before you are a senior. I would think that would include a scholarship--or why would you commit so early.

What was said above is true. These people laid the proper foundation and have been doing the work necessary. Do you need to do that much work? No, but the more of what is written above is done, the better chance you have of the success story above.

My daughter tends to get overwhelmed with too many options. She limited her options right away to schools that had what she wanted to study along with a good softball program. She was pretty sure that she wanted to sign a letter of intent this fall, but suddenly she is getting a bunch of coaches contacting her and wanting her to play for them. I am not sure if we will begin visiting schools again or not.

We did not do near the work listed above, but we attended camps, sent the profiles and videos, and we invited coaches to the tournaments she was playing in. We also chose a team that would give her the exposure she needed to be seen by coaches. You have to do the work, or you are allowing chance to rule whether your daughter will be seen by the right coach at the right time when she is doing something spectacular and the coach needs that type of player.

I think this discussion is great. So many parents don't know what to do to help their daughter have a chance at playing college ball. At least people are learning what they can do to get noticed.

Oh, the coaches want to hear from the kids and not the parents. I have heard that over and over at recruiting seminars. Make sure the kids send the emails to the coaches.
 
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LUVFPSB-great info and very helpful. thanks again for providing us newbies with such great info and very detailed posts.
LUVTHEGAME -good luck with your dd and thanks for giving us some helpful ideals..

sliderz-why would you attach someone who spent a great deal of time writting a very detailed post in hopes to help other parents out there? They didn't have to put such detail into it and give away their hard work secret to success. Someone asked for help in the process they gave it.. no reason to call them a liar or point fingers.
 
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All NCAA athletic scholarships are one-year renewable -- hence, there is no such thing as a four-year scholarship on paper.
Very, very rarely does a school diminish the value of the scholarship for poor performance, and often times they will elevate the value for good performance
When a kid on scholarship doesn't perform up to expectations, SOP (especially at higher levels) is to make life miserable for them and they transfer.
Anybody can make an oral commitment at any time. Seniors ONLY can sign in the early period in mid-November.
 
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Now that my DD is a college freshman, I couldn't agree more with what has been said by other's in previous posts within this spread. GPA and test scores are first and foremost important. With that being said, let me touch on something I haven't seen mentioned that really decided upon where my DD ended up.
The summer between her Junior/Senior year and into fall of Senior year was such a roller coaster ride! I wouldn't have missed it for anything! We visited so many colleges and talked to numerous coaches. At times she was so overwhelmed, but knew it needed to be done. Most coaches invited her to an overnight with the team and to watch practice. TAKE THE COACHES UP ON THIS OFFER!! It is a wonderful way in which to see how the team gets along not only with each other on and off the field, but the respect they have for the coaches while away from them. It also gives the recruit a very small taste of dorm life and what goes on in the evenings.
An overnight was actually a deciding factor in where my DD did end up. She fell in love with a college and it's campus. When we got home from this first visit she was telling her grandmother about it. Her grandmother mentioned that she had such a sparkle in her eye when talking about it that it must be the right place. We went back for another visit then went to the overnight in the fall. She was paired up with a couple of softball players (of course). The team had to attend a fundraiser function where they were expected to work to help earn money for the spring trip. Another player, not aware of my DD sitting in the back, started complaining about the coach bringing recruits in especially for the position in which she was recruiting my DD. Others agreed with her. Strike one...how would you feel knowing next years teammates already don't like you because of being recruited (not really a big deal but you have to keep team chemistry in mind). Next, that evening SEVERAL girls on the team invited my DD to go off campus to a party where there would be drinking. My DD decided to stay back on campus with a couple of other girls she had met who had also invited her to do some stuff on campus. At that point, my DD called me and informed me she was ready to leave THEN and come and pick her up (I was staying at a local hotel). She didn't tell me what was going on and I told her to stick it out. Strike two.......I know this has happened to others before but still was shocked it happened. Next day, after we got home, the coach calls her. My DD isn't very talkative to the coach. I told my DD to tell the coach what happened but my DD doesn't want to be a tattle-tale and get people in trouble. A week later the coach calls again, on her normal calling night, and tells my DD that she knows what happened. She also informed my DD that this has happened in the past and those girls had been punished but she guessed that she needed to make the punishment harsher this time. Strike thee.....that was it. If things had happened before and are still happening then what control does the coach actually have????
She is very happy with where she is at now and glad she has made the right choice. The years of preparation, traveling and hard work both in the classroom and playing field have paid off. What a ride we were on together. I am already missing the fun we had visiting so many different colleges. It's a once in a lifetime opportunity. Grab hold and hang on!! Go with it and in the end you'll be glad you did!
Again, I can't stress how important the overnight visits were to my DD's final decision. Good luck, you are in for the time of you life!
 
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This is some great stuff ,...think Ill keep this in a folder. Thank's for all the golden nuggets .
 
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SN1532, thanks for mentioning the overnighters, DD has been invited by a couple of schools to do this and we haven't done it yet....she not sure if she is ready....it has been nice the few times she has been taken to lunch by players and gotten to meet the team....maybe in the Spring or next fall we'll make that leap....your right the ride has been a rollercoaster so far but fun....
 
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1 Look at a lot of schools. Turnover of coaches can be very diconcerting, particularily when the former coach was very interested in your DD. New coach may favor speed over power, power over speed, and may train in a far differnet way than you originally were lead to believe.

2 Just because you have interest in a school does not mean they will have a scholarship for your DD. Sure any school loves walk ons,but they are betting their carrer and paycheck on players they gave scholarships to first.

3 Do not burn bridges, just because they are small, or you have not heard of the school does not mean they can not offer a quality education. Your DD will likely not go pro.

4. If grades are good enough you will not need a softball scholarship, which might take away from DD studies.

5. Camps and showcases are a good place to network with coaches and other parents. Parents of older players and top notch programs already have experience with college coaches.

6. Get with a quality program, / quality coach. The coaches have contacts with college coaches, see your DD play on a regular basis, may recommend you to a college. DD my learn a thing or two from travel coach before she goes to college. The teams schedule quality tourneys, putting you in front of college coaches. Let your coach be the Norm from Cheers where every college coach knows his name.
I could mention several quality programs / coaches right now, but do not want to leave anyone out. I will be sending out thank you notes to many coaches through the years that have spent hours and probably tons of money working with my DD as soon as she signs her offer. I also appreciate all of the teams, that competed giving DD someone to play, compete and improve against.

7 Look at college roster, if they have several pitchers, or any other position, they may be full, or have all of their scholarships allotted.

8 Do not burn bridges with your travel team, they may need an extra player for a showcase, may need one for a world series, or may be asked by a college coach what they thought of your DD. Possibly you needed a break, wanted to try something different, would you and your DD be welcome back to play or at least have some lunch at a tourney?
 

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