Sanctioning Insurance is getting rediculous

[Tallmadgecoach]

Is it just me or is anyone else frustrated with each sanctioning body making you carry THEIR SPECIFIC insurance for their tournaments!? I mean one company covers it all on the team end, plus the fact that by now almost 100% of parents carry general health insurance! this is another example of kickbacks to heads of sanctioning bodies and taking advantage of youth sports...ridiculous. Give me one example of why this is needed ASA, NSA, et all?!

 

[coachjwb]

I've not coached a travel team for the last couple of years, so I'm not familiar with exactly what's happening these days, but would love to hear more. I know things were trending that direction a few years back. My recollection is that it used to be as long as you had a policy that covered $x minimum of liability insurance, etc. that you could provide evidence of that you were good to go in any tourney ... that insurance used to be like $100-125/year if I remember right. But as I was getting out of it, I was hearing that the different organizations were starting to use excuses that you had to use theirs to make sure they had adequate coverage. Definitely sounded like another way for the sanctioning bodies to make more money.

 

[Captain_Thunder]

NSA was the only one's I am aware of that wanted to make you used their insurance to play in any event of theirs.........THAT IS WHY NO ONE IS PLAYING NSA IN OHIO NOW!!!

ASA, PGF, USSSA, USFA, IFA, etc all accept the same policy. Now if you are planning on playing in any ASA National - you need to have their insurance. So if planning that, jist buy theirs........otherwise all are accepted. It has only been NSA that has tried that to this point..........And because of the response, I don't think another will try unless they feel they can truly corner the market.........

 

[Tallmadgecoach]

you are correct in the amount but it is true that sanctioners only accept their brand (ie, ASA is Bollinger). But the problem is that we like both ASA and NSA tournaments and end up having to spend $300 on insurance as opposed to $115 with Chappell insurance which isn't recognized by either. If you are trying to get 10 year olds started in more than entry level softball, it becomes ridiculous. Like I said, everyone at this point has personal health insurance anyways! Thanks for responding.

 

[Captain_Thunder]

you are correct in the amount but it is true that sanctioners only accept their brand (ie, ASA is Bollinger). But the problem is that we like both ASA and NSA tournaments and end up having to spend $300 on insurance as opposed to $115 with Chappell insurance which isn't recognized by either. If you are trying to get 10 year olds started in more than entry level softball, it becomes ridiculous. Like I said, everyone at this point has personal health insurance anyways! Thanks for responding.

Are you sure ASA will not take your insurance???? They take more than just Bollinger - Unless it is Nationals, they have always accepted all!!!
***Once again, It is ONLY NSA that is requiring their own insurance for their events***

Chappell seems cheaper for the younger teams, but costs more for than others for the older teams......

 

[BulldawgsDirector]

ASA insurance is accepted by all. NSA tried to pull that, regardless of how they try to spin it now, and it cost them allot of teams and tournaments. I believe to attend a PGF National event you have to carry their insurance but I'm not certain.

 

[WWolff]

asa insurance is accepted by all. Nsa tried to pull that, regardless of how they try to spin it now, and it cost them allot of teams and tournaments. I believe to attend a pgf national event you have to carry their insurance but i'm not certain.

To attend PGF Premier Nationals in Huntington Beach you must have their insurance, but if you go to the one in Peoria Ill. you are not required they will accept any.
I think almost all nationals regardless of sanctioning body require their insurance. I know asa does. I think PGF Midwest Championships is one of the only nationals that does not.

 

[WWolff]

ASA insurance is accepted by all. NSA tried to pull that, regardless of how they try to spin it now, and it cost them allot of teams and tournaments. I believe to attend a PGF National event you have to carry their insurance but I'm not certain.

ASA is not accepted by all. Some require their own insurance like NSA and not sure about some of the others like pony,ifa, and usssa.

 

[DanMaz]

you are correct in the amount but it is true that sanctioners only accept their brand (ie, ASA is Bollinger). But the problem is that we like both ASA and NSA tournaments and end up having to spend $300 on insurance as opposed to $115 with Chappell insurance which isn't recognized by either. If you are trying to get 10 year olds started in more than entry level softball, it becomes ridiculous. Like I said, everyone at this point has personal health insurance anyways! Thanks for responding.

fasten your seatbelt!!! if your upset about spending an extra $150 for insurance.... just wait until they are 13 yrs. an older and tourney costs double, travel distances double, double the clinics, showcases, profile videos, team fees....... Whoa! you are just scratching the surface my friend!!
welcome to the crazy life we call travel ball!!!!! lol

 

[BulldawgsDirector]

ASA is not accepted by all. Some require their own insurance like NSA and not sure about some of the others like pony,ifa, and usssa.

NSA accepts all. They changed their mind and attempted damage control releasing a "that's not what we meant" statement after it was too little, too late. USSSA accepts all, No idea about pony, TCS, or IFA but not much presence if any in Ohio. I would venture to guess 80% of Ohio teams carry ASA insurance. That's based on nothing but a guess

 

[WWolff]

NSA accepts all. They changed their mind and attempted damage control releasing a "that's not what we meant" statement after it was too little, too late. USSSA accepts all, No idea about pony, TCS, or IFA but not much presence if any in Ohio. I would venture to guess 80% of Ohio teams carry ASA insurance. That's based on nothing but a guess

Thanks I didn't know they changed it, because we don't play nsa. Looks like to little to late in Ohio.

 

[CoachTEA]

Thanks I didn't know they changed it, because we don't play nsa. Looks like to little to late in Ohio.

Agreed! Too late for me to consider NSA tournaments; I select my summer schedule in November.

 

[FastBat]

Thanks I didn't know they changed it, because we don't play nsa. Looks like to little to late in Ohio.

I would be hesitant to play any NSA in Ohio, at least this year, for fear the tourney would be smaller than I expected d/t all the chatter about NSA forcing teams to use their insurance. Even if they changed their rules back, to accepting all insurance, earlier this year.


Yep, it gets expensive...even at 10u. That's why teams have to do so much fundraising!
Find sanctioning bodies that don't require your team to use their insurance.

Also, most families have self insurance, of course, but that doesn't mean they don't have hefty medical co-pays and the player's parents could still take legal action against coaches and team. That's why I would suggest against, not carrying insurance to save money, even if your team is just practicing. Insurance is 12-month commit anyways.

 

[KiksLawres]

I also know that ASA insurance is accepted by all. The policy covers most of the various health problems. Still, when we are speaking about sports, most likely, you need additional insurance. To be honest, I was surprised at such a low price as you wrote - 115$. Although, perhaps this particular item is not as expensive as if you buy full insurance. In any case, there is a service https://www.lifeinsuranceblog.net/750000-term-life-insurance-rates/ that will allow you to find out which package of services is right for you. You can inquire with them.

 

[PiterNows]

I absolutely agree that all the nationals regardless of sanctioning body require their insurance.

 

[Captain_Thunder]

I absolutely agree that all the nationals regardless of sanctioning body require their insurance.

Nice first post....even though it is false....
Not all sanctioning bodies require their own insurance be used for Nationals! Most Don't! USSSA does not....

But really great how someone pulled up a thread from 5 1/2 years ago....Cost has def went up!