School Stats

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There is no doubt some padding and just plain bad scorekeeping going on out there, though I sometimes think it gets overplayed some. I am sure there are no OHSAA rules or policies around schools maintaining stats or records ... that is strictly up to the individual schools. While college coaches usually consider high school stats with a grain of salt, they do expect to at least see them on profiles. In my opinion, a good high school coach should also have interest in seeing those stats on a regular basis to help he or she make decisions, and the only way they can put credibility in them is to look over the book after each game.

By the way Ray, your DD does get a stolen base when she advances to home when a catcher does try to throw out someone stealing second. There is no such thing as a fielder's choice when the ball wasn't struck by a bat. The only exception to the stolen base would be if there were an error on the play and the scorekeeper determines that the runner would not have scored had there not been an error. Given that you are the scorekeeper .....

 

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jwb,
nice point on fielder's choice since no contact was made...I knew it wasn't fielder's indifference either, like the plenty of times she delays the catcher out of her shoes and they end up just holding the ball..

maybe it was "that's-my-daughter-factor-and-if-I-give-her-the-benefit-of-the-doubt-then-Ringer-eats-another-one-of-my-cats-avatars" or something to that nature!

 

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School stats really mean nothing other then personal pride in each player's community. The media (Newspapers, Radio stations etc) will report most the games. That is if your talking High School ball. Each week or after each game, coaches or their assistants are encourage to call in game results to papers etc. I've never really seen any untruths called into the central Ohio area. I know most these players and the game results. Let it be fun!!! don't bury it in controversy.

 

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coachjwb:

Straight from ATEC:

Credit a fielder's choice

1. ?When a ball is put in play where a preceding runner is forced out on the hit, or would have been forced out had no error occurred,

2. ?When a ball is put in play where a preceding runner who is forced to advance, is called out on an appeal for missing the first base she was to advance to,

3. ?When a ball is put in play where a play is made on any lead runner and an out occurs, or an out would have occurred had no error taken place, or the runner is safe, but the batter would have been out had the initial play been made at first,

4. ?When a runner is checked and no throw is made (a mere checking of a lead runner, or faking a throw does not constitute a play, unless no throw is made, but when a check is followed by a throw and the hitter is safe, credit a hit),

5. ?When after reaching any base safely, a batter earns extra bases because of a play on a preceding runner (not scored as a part of the original base or extra base hit),

6. ?When other runners advance while the catcher makes a play on the batter on a dropped third strike,

7. ?When a base is gained by a runner who is allowed to advance because of indifference (this does not necessarily apply in a first and third situation), and

8. ?When a fielder makes a play on a base she thought a runner was going to, but was wrong, the batter baserunner would have been out with an immediate play at first.

Offense: Stolen Bases

Credit a stolen base to a runner who advances a base unaided by a safe hit, putout, error, force out, fielder's choice, illegal pitch, base on balls, hit batter, wild pitch, passed ball, interference or obstruction.

a. If the runner starts for the next base on the release of the pitch and the pitch results in what would otherwise be scored as a wild pitch or passed bail, credit her with a stolen base (if she gets a second base because of the wild pitch or passed bail score only the initial base as stolen).

b. When any runner is thrown out on an attempted double or triple steal, no runner will be credited with a stolen base.

?1) On a double steal attempt in a first and third situation where an unsuccessful but legitimate effort is made to put out the runner stealing second base, credit a stolen base even if the runner on third is thrown out at home on a continuous play.
?2) In a first and third double steal credit the runner advancing to second with a fielder's choice if the initial throw is to anywhere but second base.
?3) In the first and third double steal, credit the runner advancing to second base with a stolen base if no throw is made (unless indifference because of a lopsided score was the cause of no defensive action), even if the advance was made immediately after rounding on a walk,
?4) On double or triple steal attempts; if a runner is successful when played upon, all others who advance are also scored as having successfully stolen a base.

c. A stolen base is credited even if a wild throw would have resulted in a sure putout, had it not been wild. No error is charged unless another base is gained because of the throw.

d. If a runner who is attempting to steal, or who has been picked off a base, gets caught in a rundown and makes it safely to the next base without a defensive error, credit a stolen base only if the next base was unoccupied. If a succeeding runner advances, regardless of which base the lead runner ends on, credit her also with a stolen base or stolen bases.

e. If a runner is awarded a base during an attempted steal because of obstruction, no "caught stealing" should be charged, and a stolen base should be credited.

f. If a runner advances to a base because of a pick play on another runner, only score a stolen base if you are sure she broke for the next base prior to the release of the catcher's throw.

g. Do not credit a stolen base to a runner who advances because of defensive indifference; score a fielder's choice. (See noted exception for first and third situation above).

So, there is a fielder's choice when the ball is not hit. Statman, turn in your clipboard until remedial training is completed.

 

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I stand corrected. In statman's situation though, you agree stolen base right?

 

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I agree with the SB. (That's a Pepsi at the next tournament Statman).

 

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so right AND wrong! thanks, wvan, and since you know what i look like I guess I'll have an ice cold Pepsi waiting or you