Signs - which do you use?

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Coach Murph ... I don't know you and you haven't said yet what your preference is, but I think I need to send you a commission or something for starting this thread, because its generating all kinds of new interest ... I have received 4 e-mails or PM's already this morning! (Unfortunately I'm not making enough on this to pay any commissions, so don't get your hopes up!)
 
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SoCal ... so are you seeing it much in the fastpitch world out there?
Our team started using them last season and occasionally see others.

I checked my recordings of the 4 PGF championship games and the Bandits were the only team with wristbands. It looked like they only used them when they had runners on base.
 
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10u, wristbands didn't exist much or at least in our lil world

11u-12u, lots of game decision teaching, body part signals, and we considered switching to the wrist bands.

13u-14u, time to "play" without us holding your hand. Tried the number system, some liked, some didn't (pitchers and catchers) so we didn't mandate across the board. So, they called most of their own plays at the plate and on the bases. 14u was also the year they called all of their own games. Defense also had "stealth" calls. Catcher has signs that most won't notice, what I call "ninja softball". So, for "me", it was about letting them "see", then "communicate", and this is from the plate. defense, offense, bases, etc. So why would I do that. Well, yeah, many times "learning in the trenches" is way better than my interpretted whomp whomp whomp waa waa (Charlie Brown's teacher) and got their softball IQ way up without them listening to my rambling for hours at practice and then having no interest in executing in the games. So my signs would 'occasionally' be called in just to mess with the other team and then the girls still had nearly a 100% "read and do" set of commands. There were calls that were "have to do's" out of tight game strategy but I'd communicate that during the inning or between innings. So, for me, the long term deal was to get their IQ's very high and then when they play for coaches that live by calling every play in... they would be very sound mentally and have the ability to make micro adjustments on the fly and understand the repercussions of their results and split-second decisions. The coolest thing is when they "know it's ok to bunt with 2 strikes and 2 outs" and make a play and "NEVER" get yelled at for it and have confidence in laying down the crucial bunt or play or whatever. And, BTW, many games are won due to the players playing it out this way, I love it! Takes a long time to develop this but it's the right thing to do for me and my style when I coached.
 
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Just curious why you need so many signals that you have to code them into a wristband. My team a high end 18U team has always only had five offensive signals and done quite well with them! Bunt, steal, squeeze, take and hit and run What else is there to do?! Most steals are read steals anyway!

We have four defensive signals that cover everything we ever run into.

Sometimes I think we try over complicate things when execution is the key.
 
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Just curious why you need so many signals that you have to code them into a wristband. My team a high end 18U team has always only had five offensive signals and done quite well with them! Bunt, steal, squeeze, take and hit and run What else is there to do?! Most steals are read steals anyway!

We have four defensive signals that cover everything we ever run into.

Sometimes I think we try over complicate things when execution is the key.

Amen
 
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Classicpride ... one reason for a wristband system might be to facilitate more signs, another reason is to better disguise the signs you have, and another possible reason is that some coaches just aren't very good or smooth at doing the traditional body part signals.

Some signs that some teams use include drag bunts, surprise/sneaky bunts (bunting for a base hit), slaps, fake bunts (to draw the defense in), combination signals (e.g., fake bunt and steal, take and steal), delay steals, "green lights", opposite field hit, and just plain decoys (where the other team thinks something might be on). Would you necessarily need signals for a lot of these ... definitely not. Could some of these be built into traditional touch the body parts signals ... definitely. Are some coach better than others at touch the body parts signals ... absolutely (I was terrible!). Should older players require less specific signals from coaches ... I hope so, but then at the older age levels you can also expect some complexities to be added.

I liked the wristbands as a coach, and the girls liked them better too. But definitely to each their own.
 
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Just curious why you need so many signals that you have to code them into a wristband. My team a high end 18U team has always only had five offensive signals and done quite well with them! Bunt, steal, squeeze, take and hit and run What else is there to do?! Most steals are read steals anyway!

We have four defensive signals that cover everything we ever run into.

Sometimes I think we try over complicate things when execution is the key.

makes coach looks smarter... It's like having 8 pitches.
 
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Hey, my daughter pitched 4 years in college and only had 3 pitches, so I get that. It drives me crazy when I have a pitcher tryout and they tell me they have all of these pitches some of which I never heard of, and invariably none of them actually move.
 
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Someone wise once said don't underestimate fastball painting the corners.
 
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I also just bought the wristbands from JB, pretty simple to understand...I pulled a set out at the dinner table with dd and just started calling numbers and she knew it right away...she is 15...and a half...permit coming soon! but she didn't even skip a beat when I asked her the very first one and she has never had an ounce of experience with them...looks like I will probably love the system as it stands today but haven't used with my team yet...will start that in a week form Saturday. Thanks again JB
 
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Thanks, Chad ... good luck with them, and let me know if any questions.
 
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Using the wrist band system for my 11u team. Just handed them out last Saturday morning, played 3 games on Saturday and Sunday morning the girls had them down. The wrist band system is easy and the girls really seem to like using them :)
 
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Chris ... great to hear that they are working well for you!

Jeff
 
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Oldest daughter played with IL Chill (Morris) 18u last year. They used a rotating indicator based on the inning, as well as verbal cues. At first I thought it seemed a little confusing, but the girls picked it up pretty quickly. I coach 10u this year and have no need for something that elaborate, but have started laying down the foundation to transition into that type of system over the years. That being said, I am researching the wristband system as well, because it seems like it SHOULD simplify the entire process for both the coach and the players. I only saw two 18u teams use the wristbands last year and for some reason both seemed a little awkward with it.
 
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tjs ... PM me your e-mail address and I will send you some info on the system that I developed and am selling here. We used them at 12-U last year and, after the initial weekend for us all to get used to them, there was nothing awkward about it.
 
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The verdict is in................... and I like them! make sure to laminate the signs before you put them in the wrist bands. I am very old school and I am a fan so for whatever that is worth.

Coach Murph
 
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So could someone give an example of the number system and how it works (through showing a number with my hands)? I'd like to implement this in the future.
 

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