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Where was this thread 15 years ago?? Classic.
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I'm just glad dads didn't have cell phones , computers, and the OFC 30 years ago, or some of us would not be around to reply to this tread.
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"THE LIST" is fun to read. But come on, tell me you all aren't serious about this. Having three daughters myself, I worry about these same moments and issues, but I'm putting MUCH MORE STOCK in my daughter, and my relationship with my daughter, and my Daughters personal relationship with her Savior as well as her Mother and me as role models.
Here's "My List" that I'm hanging my hat on:
- Spend time weekly "Alone" with your daughter(s), 1 on 1, building a trusting and loving relationship. (Time related to Fast-Pitch does not count.)
- Treat your wives as you want your daughters to be treated by other boys/men, so your daughters are reinforced again on a healthy relationship.
- Share your FAITH with your daughters, and do all you can to bring them to the Lord so she can have her own personal relationship with our Savior. (Baptism, Church, Youth Groups, Communion, Confirmation....)
I know even with all the above, there are still great risks, but when the time comes, I will have faith and trust in my daughters ability to know who she should and should not be dealing with(Yes, I will be watching and intervening when needed, BUT NOT LIST REUQUIRED. And yes, even good guys are Jerks too, so again, I have faith she will call upon her values, and Christian Faith to act and choose wisely.
And yes, some boys/guys/men are total SCUM BAGS that truly deserve to hear THE LIST if not FEEL THE LIST. But guess what.. They don't care and it won't deter those whose motives are what you're afraid of.
Don't get me wrong, I feel as protective as the next guy, but I know my daughters will be much more effective and in control as they HAVE TO BE, and "THE LIST" you are all depending on is pretty much over, once they leave the house. I think you all forget how "Invincible" the young guns are. Lastly, you may want to check out more recent studies as to who the Sexual Agressor are between boys and girls at the highscool & Jr. High age groups. You might be surprised. Girls NEEDING validation is our biggest risk, as they will search just about anywhere to fill the void in their life. That void is their Dad and their Savior.
To all you Kung Fu Fighters out there, you might want to obtain a "Black Belt" in The Bible and share that with your daughter. Stand up and be The Spiritual Leader in your home and get your families plugged into a bible based church, youth groups, and spend all the time you can with them. (Again, Fast - Pitch doesn't count...well sometimes it does.. ^_^)
Just my 2 cents... THE LIST is a sad confirmation how parents today look for antidotes instead of taking the responsibility in doing the required work that provides the prevention.
Those of you looking for Father/Daughter activities can shoot me a PM, as I started a Father/Daughter Fellowship Program(Angels) three years ago with the intentions of building and maintaining a loving relationship between Dad/Daughter. There is no greater way to show "daughters" how important and valued they are, then dedicating a night or two each month JUST FOR HER with opportunities to grow and share your faith along the way. Anyone interested in finding more info on "Angels", can PM me as I will be glad to shoot you a flyer, link to calendar, and or discuss the program with you.
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Here's "My List" that I'm hanging my hat on:
- Spend time weekly "Alone" with your daughter(s), 1 on 1, building a trusting and loving relationship. (Time related to Fast-Pitch does not count.)
- Treat your wives as you want your daughters to be treated by other boys/men, so your daughters are reinforced again on a healthy relationship.
- Share your FAITH with your daughters, and do all you can to bring them to the Lord so she can have her own personal relationship with our Savior. (Baptism, Church, Youth Groups, Communion, Confirmation....)
I know even with all the above, there are still great risks, but when the time comes, I will have faith and trust in my daughters ability to know who she should and should not be dealing with(Yes, I will be watching and intervening when needed, BUT NOT LIST REUQUIRED. And yes, even good guys are Jerks too, so again, I have faith she will call upon her values, and Christian Faith to act and choose wisely.
And yes, some boys/guys/men are total SCUM BAGS that truly deserve to hear THE LIST if not FEEL THE LIST. But guess what.. They don't care and it won't deter those whose motives are what you're afraid of.
Don't get me wrong, I feel as protective as the next guy, but I know my daughters will be much more effective and in control as they HAVE TO BE, and "THE LIST" you are all depending on is pretty much over, once they leave the house. I think you all forget how "Invincible" the young guns are. Lastly, you may want to check out more recent studies as to who the Sexual Agressor are between boys and girls at the highscool & Jr. High age groups. You might be surprised. Girls NEEDING validation is our biggest risk, as they will search just about anywhere to fill the void in their life. That void is their Dad and their Savior.
To all you Kung Fu Fighters out there, you might want to obtain a "Black Belt" in The Bible and share that with your daughter. Stand up and be The Spiritual Leader in your home and get your families plugged into a bible based church, youth groups, and spend all the time you can with them. (Again, Fast - Pitch doesn't count...well sometimes it does.. ^_^)
Just my 2 cents... THE LIST is a sad confirmation how parents today look for antidotes instead of taking the responsibility in doing the required work that provides the prevention.
Those of you looking for Father/Daughter activities can shoot me a PM, as I started a Father/Daughter Fellowship Program(Angels) three years ago with the intentions of building and maintaining a loving relationship between Dad/Daughter. There is no greater way to show "daughters" how important and valued they are, then dedicating a night or two each month JUST FOR HER with opportunities to grow and share your faith along the way. Anyone interested in finding more info on "Angels", can PM me as I will be glad to shoot you a flyer, link to calendar, and or discuss the program with you.
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Another good deterrent to say is " In case you get any ideas, I have a .45 and a shovel, I doubt anybody would miss you" Like all these other ideas also.
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Any kid who took advantage of my dd would catch the beating of his life. No, I'm not joking. It's easier to, half jokingly, warn them of what will happen. My first wife, who I started dating in high school, had two older brothers that she didn't hesitate to remind me that I would have to face if I ever hurt her. My current wife, who I met when we were both in our thirties, would remind me that her dad, who is 6'6" and 300 plus (retired cop to boot) would also not hesitate to take me out if I broke her heart. Both of them of course were half joking. It's the other half that you need to worry about when you're the male in this situation. Keep the boys honest by putting the fear of God in them, and they're less likely to do something stupid. JMO
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Triple threat if it would make you feel better I will put a Bible by my jar of testicles on the wall and wear a cross under my leather jacket. And to boot I will say a prayer just before I send these little creeps to meet their maker. I have been a born again Christian most of my life, but there are 2 parties in the battle for souls God and Satan, and what a victory when Satan can get a Christian to slip and give into temptation. I will say that as a boy and tempted by the dark side I would love to meet fathers like you, it was the redneck fathers with the extensive gun collections and dead animals hanging from the wall that I respected the most and returned their daughters the way they left.
There are 2 old and famous sayings that I now live by.
Spare the rod that spoils the child (even if is a teenage boy).
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God created man, but Sam Colt made them equal.
There are 2 old and famous sayings that I now live by.
Spare the rod that spoils the child (even if is a teenage boy).
and
God created man, but Sam Colt made them equal.
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We live out in the country and I tell them that with two swipes of the neighbor's backhoe the hole is big enough and When they say big enough for what I say a body.
But in all honesty is does come down to what triplethreat says and hopefully we have raised them right and they will make the right decision when those scum bags try something.
But in all honesty is does come down to what triplethreat says and hopefully we have raised them right and they will make the right decision when those scum bags try something.
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Thanks guys I SEE Ive got a long road ahead.......
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DO NOT allow them to date until after softball no matter what. My daughter used to play softball until about a year ago. She met a guy who we thought was a good kid, played football, baseball and wrestling. We figured he understood the time that she needed to put into her sport. WRONG. He was for the first 6 months, then became very controlling. She quit playing softball, grades started to drop and mom and dad were terrible. We have since made them break up and do not allow them together. I have promised him bodily harm if he hurts my daughter and told him to break up with her. It has been a VERY long 2 months since and hope that someday she will see we were right. You really don't know how it's going to go until you have to deal with it. My sister went through the same stuff and ended up running away at 16. She has since turned into a great mother. KEEP THE BOYS AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Here is the expanded version
This is the expanded version along with an application. I pasted it from Word so I don't know if the format will look right. if you would like the actual document, email me at dzcp1@yahoo.com and I will email it to you.
APPLICATION FOR PERMISSION TO DATE MY DAUGHTER
NOTE: This application will be incomplete and rejected unless accompanied by a complete financial statement, job history, lineage, and current medical report from your doctor.
NAME_____________________________________ DATE OF BIRTH_____________
HEIGHT___________ WEIGHT____________ IQ__________ GPA_____________
SOCIAL SECURITY #_________________ DRIVERS LICENSE #________________
BOY SCOUT RANK AND BADGES__________________________________________
HOME ADDRESS_______________________ CITY/STATE___________ ZIP______
Do you have parents? ___Yes ___No
Is one male and the other female? ___Yes ___No
If No, explain:
_____________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________________________________
Number of years they have been married ______________________________
If less than your age, explain
____________________________________________________________________
____________________________________________________________________
ACCESSORIES SECTION:
A. Do you own or have access to a van? __Yes __No
B. A truck with oversized tires? __Yes __No
C. A waterbed? __Yes __No
D. A pickup with a mattress in the back? __Yes __No
E. A tattoo? __Yes __No
F. Do you have an earring, nose ring, pierced tongue, pierced cheek or a belly button ring? __Yes __No
(IF YOU ANSWERED 'YES' TO ANY OF THE ABOVE, DISCONTINUE APPLICATION
AND LEAVE PREMISES IMMEDIATELY. I SUGGEST RUNNING.)
ESSAY SECTION:
In 50 words or less, what does 'LATE' mean to you?
______________________________________________________________
______________________________________________________________
In 50 words or less, what does 'DON'T TOUCH MY DAUGHTER' mean to you?
______________________________________________________________
______________________________________________________________
In 50 words or less, what does 'ABSTINENCE' mean to you?
______________________________________________________________
______________________________________________________________
REFERENCES SECTION:
Church you attend ___________________________________________________
How often you attend ________________________________________________
When would be the best time to interview your:
father? _____________
mother? _____________
pastor? _____________
SHORT-ANSWER SECTION:
Answer by filling in the blank. Please answer freely, all answers are confidential.
A: If I were shot, the last place I would want shot would be:
______________________________________________________________
B: If I were beaten, the last bone I would want broken is my:
______________________________________________________________
C: A woman's place is in the:
______________________________________________________________
D: The one thing I hope this application does not ask me about is:
______________________________________________________________
E. What do you want to do IF you grow up? ___________________________
______________________________________________________________
______________________________________________________________
F. When I meet a girl, the thing I always notice about her first is:
______________________________________________________________
G. What is the current going rate of a hotel room? __________________
I SWEAR THAT ALL INFORMATION SUPPLIED ABOVE IS TRUE AND CORRECT TO
THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE UNDER PENALTY OF DEATH, DISMEMBERMENT,NATIVE AMERICAN ANT TORTURE, CRUCIFIXION, ELECTROCUTION, CHINESE WATER TORTURE, RED HOT POKERS, AND HILLARY CLINTON KISS TORTURE.
_________________________________________________________
Applicant's Signature (that means sign your name, moron!)
_______________________________ ________________________________
Mother's Signature Father's Signature
_______________________________ ________________________________
Pastor/Priest/Rabbi State Representative/Congressman
Thank you for your interest, and it had better be genuine and non-sexual. Please allow four to six years for processing. You will be contacted in writing if you are approved. Please do not try to
call or write (since you probably can't, and it would cause you injury). If your application is rejected, you will be notified by two gentleman wearing white ties carrying violin cases. (you might watch your back) To prepare yourself, start studying Daddy's Rules for Dating.
Daddy's Rules for Dating
Your dad's rules for your boyfriend (or for you if you're a guy) :
Rule One: If you pull into my driveway and honk you'd better be delivering a package, because you're sure not picking anything up.
Rule Two: You do not touch my daughter in front of me. You may glance at her, so long as you do not peer at anything below her neck. If you cannot keep your eyes or hands off of my daughter's body, I will remove them.
Rule Three: I am aware that it is considered fashionable for boys of your age to wear their trousers so loosely that they appear to be falling off their hips. Please don't take this as an insult, but you and all of your friends are complete idiots. Still, I want to be fair and open minded about this issue, so I propose this compromise: You may come to the door with your underwear showing and your pants ten sizes too big, and I will not object. However, in order to ensure that your clothes do not, in fact come off during the course of your date with my daughter, I will take my electric nail gun and fasten your trousers securely in place to your waist.
Rule Four: I'm sure you've been told that in today's world, sex without utilizing a 'Barrier method' of some kind can kill you. Let me elaborate, when it comes to sex, I am the barrier, and I will kill you.
Rule Five: It is usually understood that in order for us to get to know each other, we should talk about sports, politics, and other issues of the day. Please do not do this. The only information I require from you is an indication of when you expect to have my daughter safely back at my house, and the only word I need from you on this subject is: 'early.'
Rule Six: I have no doubt you are a popular fellow, with many opportunities to date other girls. This is fine with me as long as it is okay with my daughter. Otherwise, once you have gone out with my little girl, you will continue to date no one but her until she is finished with you. If you make her cry, I will make you cry.
Rule Seven: As you stand in my front hallway, waiting for my daughter to appear, and more than an hour goes by, do not sigh and fidget. If you want to be on time for the movie, you should not be dating. My daughter is putting on her makeup, a process than can take longer than painting the Golden Gate Bridge. Instead of just standing there, why don't you do something useful, like changing the oil in my car?
Rule Eight: The following places are not appropriate for a date with my daughter:
Places where there are beds, sofas, or anything softer than a wooden stool.
Places where there is darkness. Places where there is dancing, holding
hands, or happiness. Places where the ambient temperature is warm enough to induce my daughter to wear shorts, tank tops, midriff T-shirts, or anything other than overalls, a sweater, and a goose down parka - zipped up to her throat. Movies with a strong romantic or sexual theme are to be avoided; movies which feature chain saws are okay. Football games are okay. Old folks homes are better.
Rule Nine: Do not lie to me. I may appear to be a potbellied, balding, middle-aged, dimwitted has-been. But on issues relating to my daughter, I am the all-knowing, merciless god of your universe. If I ask you where you are going and with whom, you have one chance to tell me the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I have a shotgun, a shovel, and five acres behind the house. Do not trifle with me.
Rule Ten: Be afraid. Be very afraid. It takes very little for me to go into a PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder) rage and mistake you for the enemy. When I forget to take my medicine, the voices in my head frequently tell me to clean the guns and stand by for further guidance as I wait for you to bring my daughter home. As soon as you pull into the driveway you should exit the car with both hands in plain sight. Speak the perimeter password, announce in a clear voice that you have brought my daughter home safely and early, and then return to your car - there is no need for you to come inside. The camouflaged face at the window is mine.
This is the expanded version along with an application. I pasted it from Word so I don't know if the format will look right. if you would like the actual document, email me at dzcp1@yahoo.com and I will email it to you.
APPLICATION FOR PERMISSION TO DATE MY DAUGHTER
NOTE: This application will be incomplete and rejected unless accompanied by a complete financial statement, job history, lineage, and current medical report from your doctor.
NAME_____________________________________ DATE OF BIRTH_____________
HEIGHT___________ WEIGHT____________ IQ__________ GPA_____________
SOCIAL SECURITY #_________________ DRIVERS LICENSE #________________
BOY SCOUT RANK AND BADGES__________________________________________
HOME ADDRESS_______________________ CITY/STATE___________ ZIP______
Do you have parents? ___Yes ___No
Is one male and the other female? ___Yes ___No
If No, explain:
_____________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________________________________
Number of years they have been married ______________________________
If less than your age, explain
____________________________________________________________________
____________________________________________________________________
ACCESSORIES SECTION:
A. Do you own or have access to a van? __Yes __No
B. A truck with oversized tires? __Yes __No
C. A waterbed? __Yes __No
D. A pickup with a mattress in the back? __Yes __No
E. A tattoo? __Yes __No
F. Do you have an earring, nose ring, pierced tongue, pierced cheek or a belly button ring? __Yes __No
(IF YOU ANSWERED 'YES' TO ANY OF THE ABOVE, DISCONTINUE APPLICATION
AND LEAVE PREMISES IMMEDIATELY. I SUGGEST RUNNING.)
ESSAY SECTION:
In 50 words or less, what does 'LATE' mean to you?
______________________________________________________________
______________________________________________________________
In 50 words or less, what does 'DON'T TOUCH MY DAUGHTER' mean to you?
______________________________________________________________
______________________________________________________________
In 50 words or less, what does 'ABSTINENCE' mean to you?
______________________________________________________________
______________________________________________________________
REFERENCES SECTION:
Church you attend ___________________________________________________
How often you attend ________________________________________________
When would be the best time to interview your:
father? _____________
mother? _____________
pastor? _____________
SHORT-ANSWER SECTION:
Answer by filling in the blank. Please answer freely, all answers are confidential.
A: If I were shot, the last place I would want shot would be:
______________________________________________________________
B: If I were beaten, the last bone I would want broken is my:
______________________________________________________________
C: A woman's place is in the:
______________________________________________________________
D: The one thing I hope this application does not ask me about is:
______________________________________________________________
E. What do you want to do IF you grow up? ___________________________
______________________________________________________________
______________________________________________________________
F. When I meet a girl, the thing I always notice about her first is:
______________________________________________________________
G. What is the current going rate of a hotel room? __________________
I SWEAR THAT ALL INFORMATION SUPPLIED ABOVE IS TRUE AND CORRECT TO
THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE UNDER PENALTY OF DEATH, DISMEMBERMENT,NATIVE AMERICAN ANT TORTURE, CRUCIFIXION, ELECTROCUTION, CHINESE WATER TORTURE, RED HOT POKERS, AND HILLARY CLINTON KISS TORTURE.
_________________________________________________________
Applicant's Signature (that means sign your name, moron!)
_______________________________ ________________________________
Mother's Signature Father's Signature
_______________________________ ________________________________
Pastor/Priest/Rabbi State Representative/Congressman
Thank you for your interest, and it had better be genuine and non-sexual. Please allow four to six years for processing. You will be contacted in writing if you are approved. Please do not try to
call or write (since you probably can't, and it would cause you injury). If your application is rejected, you will be notified by two gentleman wearing white ties carrying violin cases. (you might watch your back) To prepare yourself, start studying Daddy's Rules for Dating.
Daddy's Rules for Dating
Your dad's rules for your boyfriend (or for you if you're a guy) :
Rule One: If you pull into my driveway and honk you'd better be delivering a package, because you're sure not picking anything up.
Rule Two: You do not touch my daughter in front of me. You may glance at her, so long as you do not peer at anything below her neck. If you cannot keep your eyes or hands off of my daughter's body, I will remove them.
Rule Three: I am aware that it is considered fashionable for boys of your age to wear their trousers so loosely that they appear to be falling off their hips. Please don't take this as an insult, but you and all of your friends are complete idiots. Still, I want to be fair and open minded about this issue, so I propose this compromise: You may come to the door with your underwear showing and your pants ten sizes too big, and I will not object. However, in order to ensure that your clothes do not, in fact come off during the course of your date with my daughter, I will take my electric nail gun and fasten your trousers securely in place to your waist.
Rule Four: I'm sure you've been told that in today's world, sex without utilizing a 'Barrier method' of some kind can kill you. Let me elaborate, when it comes to sex, I am the barrier, and I will kill you.
Rule Five: It is usually understood that in order for us to get to know each other, we should talk about sports, politics, and other issues of the day. Please do not do this. The only information I require from you is an indication of when you expect to have my daughter safely back at my house, and the only word I need from you on this subject is: 'early.'
Rule Six: I have no doubt you are a popular fellow, with many opportunities to date other girls. This is fine with me as long as it is okay with my daughter. Otherwise, once you have gone out with my little girl, you will continue to date no one but her until she is finished with you. If you make her cry, I will make you cry.
Rule Seven: As you stand in my front hallway, waiting for my daughter to appear, and more than an hour goes by, do not sigh and fidget. If you want to be on time for the movie, you should not be dating. My daughter is putting on her makeup, a process than can take longer than painting the Golden Gate Bridge. Instead of just standing there, why don't you do something useful, like changing the oil in my car?
Rule Eight: The following places are not appropriate for a date with my daughter:
Places where there are beds, sofas, or anything softer than a wooden stool.
Places where there is darkness. Places where there is dancing, holding
hands, or happiness. Places where the ambient temperature is warm enough to induce my daughter to wear shorts, tank tops, midriff T-shirts, or anything other than overalls, a sweater, and a goose down parka - zipped up to her throat. Movies with a strong romantic or sexual theme are to be avoided; movies which feature chain saws are okay. Football games are okay. Old folks homes are better.
Rule Nine: Do not lie to me. I may appear to be a potbellied, balding, middle-aged, dimwitted has-been. But on issues relating to my daughter, I am the all-knowing, merciless god of your universe. If I ask you where you are going and with whom, you have one chance to tell me the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I have a shotgun, a shovel, and five acres behind the house. Do not trifle with me.
Rule Ten: Be afraid. Be very afraid. It takes very little for me to go into a PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder) rage and mistake you for the enemy. When I forget to take my medicine, the voices in my head frequently tell me to clean the guns and stand by for further guidance as I wait for you to bring my daughter home. As soon as you pull into the driveway you should exit the car with both hands in plain sight. Speak the perimeter password, announce in a clear voice that you have brought my daughter home safely and early, and then return to your car - there is no need for you to come inside. The camouflaged face at the window is mine.
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:lmao: dzcp1 thats awesome ! ! ! I Will use It ! :lmao: Thanks...
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4thegame,
I couldn't agree with you more..... Just need more then THE RULES LIST to be successful.
Spend lots of time with them and be a great role model and get them plugged into there faith, church, youth groups and then add THE RULES LIST and we got something
I couldn't agree with you more..... Just need more then THE RULES LIST to be successful.
Spend lots of time with them and be a great role model and get them plugged into there faith, church, youth groups and then add THE RULES LIST and we got something
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dzcp,
That was tremendous!
I already copied to msWord to forwarding copies to everyone.
the place I would least like shot....are you kidding me....outstanding. Best single post on OFC ever.
Isn't the offseason great? What a great resource for offseason humor (or not).
That was tremendous!
I already copied to msWord to forwarding copies to everyone.
the place I would least like shot....are you kidding me....outstanding. Best single post on OFC ever.
Isn't the offseason great? What a great resource for offseason humor (or not).
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Glad you enjoyed it! I got a lot of mileage out of that one too. A classic
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I think we are all having softball withdrawal - no game times to look for, no scores to check. No Team Polls. DD is spending the night with a friend and we are searching the forum - so sad.. 
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I think we are all having softball withdrawal - no game times to look for, no scores to check. No Team Polls. DD is spending the night with a friend and we are searching the forum - so sad..
You wanna talk about off-season withdrawl threads---go up under the search feature and punch in "twinkies" and check out the "twinkies and ho ho's" post from last winter, lol.
better yet---here's the link (enjoy)
http://www.game-ex.com/vb3/showthread.php?t=3267&highlight=twinkies
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I love that one!You wanna talk about off-season withdrawl threads---go up under the search feature and punch in "twinkies" and check out the "twinkies and ho ho's" post from last winter, lol.
better yet---here's the link (enjoy)
http://www.game-ex.com/vb3/showthread.php?t=3267&highlight=twinkies
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That was great! gotta print it out...
Withdrawal?? Nah getting ready for the Winthrop camp and Queen of Diamonds Tomorrow! Weather in SC is supposed to be nice!
Withdrawal?? Nah getting ready for the Winthrop camp and Queen of Diamonds Tomorrow! Weather in SC is supposed to be nice!
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Wigman21, think I'm coming around to your side of this after all. Have youngster that can't take a hint after 15 ignored messages by DD, he now is engaging me via texting. Boy is this going to be fun, but worried I might cross a line and have cops show up at my door. Need a great 1 liner that this kid will get and not jeopardize myself legally. hahahaahaha..
Or, maybe I can hire an OFC hit(text man) to send the message for me....lol. (This might be a two man job...wigman21 & DaddyDice... check the skyline as there just might be a shadow of a walking taco in the sky....call me on the OFC Taco line.....this is urgent^_^)
Bob
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Great post. I just made a sign Boyfriends beware. They all got the hint. Especially when I was the one answering the door. 6'4" and 250.
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