Ump has player draw the line and calls her out

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In my 15 years of coaching and my 25 years of playing before that I have never seen what I am about to tell you.

My lefty slapper was up to bat. There were no batters boxes. The umpire told my player to draw a line as to where she thought the box would be. So she proceeded to draw the line that was closest to the plate. I never saw her do it.

On the next pitch, he called her out for being out of the box. I said, There is no box. His reply was, Yes there is , I had your player draw the line as to where she thought the box would be. I was like what, you are kidding me, right. So let me get this straight, you had a player take the knob of her bat and draw a line and then had the nerve to call her out on the very next pitch.
That is probably the craziest thing I have ever seen.

 

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Unbeleivable!!

 

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So when you went over ground rules were there any lines?

Did either coach bring it up?

Now it is in the hands of the "Blue" judgement!

From the back corner of the home plate it is 48 inches forward and 36 inches backwards....of course Bretman is given the official call.

When working with slappers we carry a can of baby powder to make lines and for the most part an experienced slapper can hit their marks blind folded.

 

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Bad form by the umpire, and certainly not a method recomended by any formal umpire training programs. Heck, they tell us umpires to not draw lines ourselves, let alone to have the player draw one!

Now, I will take exception with your statement that, "There were no batter's boxes". You may have meant that there were no batter's boxes chalked out, but there are always batter's boxes! Just because they are not marked, the rules applying to them aren't null and void. The batter's box rules are always in effect, just like the fair and foul ball rules still apply even if the foul lines aren't chalked out.

The only difference when the boxes aren't marked is that instead of a nice white chalk line to make the call, the lines and boundaries of the box are purely up to the umpire's judgment and discretion (NOT the player's!). Hopefully, you will have an umpire that knows the correct dimensions and how to apply the rule.

When no lines are marked, the umpire should give the batter every benefit of the doubt, saving any "out of the box" calls only for blatantly obvious violations. That last directive is right out of the ASA umpire manual!

 

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In my 15 years of coaching and my 25 years of playing before that I have never seen what I am about to tell you.

My lefty slapper was up to bat. There were no batters boxes. The umpire told my player to draw a line as to where she thought the box would be. So she proceeded to draw the line that was closest to the plate. I never saw her do it.

On the next pitch, he called her out for being out of the box. I said, There is no box. His reply was, Yes there is , I had your player draw the line as to where she thought the box would be. I was like what, you are kidding me, right. So let me get this straight, you had a player take the knob of her bat and draw a line and then had the nerve to call her out on the very next pitch.
That is probably the craziest thing I have ever seen.

VANITY ....I am "BLUE" !!!!!!

 

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Bad form by the umpire, and certainly not a method recomended by any formal umpire training programs. Heck, they tell us umpires to not draw lines ourselves, let alone to have the player draw one!

Now, I will take exception with your statement that, "There were no batter's boxes". You may have meant that there were no batter's boxes chalked out, but there are always batter's boxes! Just because they are not marked, the rules applying to them aren't null and void. The batter's box rules are always in effect, just like the fair and foul ball rules still apply even if the foul lines aren't chalked out.

The only difference when the boxes aren't marked is that instead of a nice white chalk line to make the call, the lines and boundaries of the box are purely up to the umpire's judgment and discretion (NOT the player's!). Hopefully, you will have an umpire that knows the correct dimensions and how to apply the rule.

When no lines are marked, the umpire should give the batter every benefit of the doubt, saving any "out of the box" calls only for blatantly obvious violations. That last directive is right out of the ASA umpire manual!

Ok, Ok here is the clincher, It was USSSA. Now I know what every body is talking about. Don't get me wrong. There was great parity amongst the teams. But I have to tell you, I now understand the difference between ASA and USSSA Umpiring. As far as the competition, there were some great teams at the USSSA World Series in Columbus Indiana.

 

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Wow! That is a really stupid call!

 

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what a tool!!!