Was there a rule change???

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Who would want thier DD playing any single sport 24/7/365 as your previous post suggested.

Next, you cannot compete on an outside team in California either.

Last, the rules do apply to middle school programs that are school sponsored.

Why would you even consider it reasonable to have your child practice and play the high school season, which for the most part is a six day a week commitment and in addition put extra time in with a travel situation. How about a life and or school work???

It will with middle school.. if you are school sponsored in Ohio. That is why some go with "club" teams in middle school so it don't affect them.

 

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Because it will take the representatives and senators to change OHSAA.. as the AD filled board isn't going to.

Or a lawsuit.

Start with the Govenor if you want change, it is an election year

Wiki-
The Ohio Department of Education is run by the Ohio State Board of Education, which has 11 elected members and eight appointed members. The state is divided into 11 districts by combining three contiguous Ohio Senate districts. The governor appoints eight members. All serve four year terms. The elected members' terms are staggered so that half of the board is elected in each even-numbered year. Vacancies in the elected membership are filled by appointment by the governor. The chairman of the Ohio House of Representatives Education Committee and his or her counterpart in the Ohio State Senate are ex officio members. The board employs a Superintendent of Public Instruction, who runs the Ohio Department of Education.

 

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Centerville--- Thoughts are now coming out from medical experts on that theory of underarm throwing.. may not be as healthy as people think. Not just arm, but spines, knees etc...

Spirit--- You are correct, all these people thinking that the girls need to play 24/7 365 one sport to get that elusive golden ring of a Full ride are sorely mistaken. Just because they play that long doesn't mean they will get squat. That's even if the child decides she wants to play at that time, move far away from home to play if offered, or just play at a school she fits in and comfortable at. It may be D-1, D-2, D-3, NAIA or Junior College. I don't like the OHSAA personally, but this is one the Myth Busters should validate.. ( Percentage of kids who go on to play and play all four years) Most won't go more than 350 miles from home anyway.

Is it fun playing at all of these Colorado, TN, IL tournaments and all that, sure, play for what it is, a game, nothing more, think of it as time spent with your DD's.



Let them be kids...... They are only once

 

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Centerville--- Thoughts are now coming out from medical experts on that theory of underarm throwing.. may not be as healthy as people think. Not just arm, but spines, knees etc...

Spirit--- You are correct, all these people thinking that the girls need to play 24/7 365 one sport to get that elusive golden ring of a Full ride are sorely mistaken. Just because they play that long doesn't mean they will get squat. That's even if the child decides she wants to play at that time, move far away from home to play if offered, or just play at a school she fits in and comfortable at. It may be D-1, D-2, D-3, NAIA or Junior College. I don't like the OHSAA personally, but this is one the Myth Busters should validate.. ( Percentage of kids who go on to play and play all four years) Most won't go more than 350 miles from home anyway.

Is it fun playing at all of these Colorado, TN, IL tournaments and all that, sure, play for what it is, a game, nothing more, think of it as time spent with your DD's.



Let them be kids...... They are only once

Hilliarddad3, One point you might want to consider. Some high school programs are so bad that DD might not even want to play. Not really fair to her that she can't play one day a week with her travel teamates? My daughters first 2 tears of high school ball were so bad she doesn't want to play and would love to have a spring league option even if just one day a week.

 

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I am with you Hilliard. I am no lover of the OHSAA for a myriad of reasons but these rules where put in to protect the athletes from the overzealous attitudes that we are encountering in our sport right now.

The problem is not limited to individuals but is exemplified by the explosion of organizations and claims of what they can do for your child. Don't get me wrong, not all organizations are bad but most do not offer what the parents and ultimately players need to succeed or the expected outcome.

As I stated earlier California limits outside participation during season. I also just searched Indianas regulations and found a very interesting explanation included in thier rules regarding this participation issue. The link follow as I could not copy and paste.

http://www.ihsaa.org/dnn/portals/0/Flip Book/2010/By_Laws_II/index.html

Please go to rule 15 and read the philosophy.

 

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If there is a Spring League somewhere and they want to choose one or the other fine, that is their choice. But to do both, can't have it both ways as it's written. But again don't let it consume your lives as it's a vortex, in the end for what goal you need to ask....

 

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Maybe I am looking at this wrong, but-DD is in a sport all year. She is now a junior, taking Honors and AP classes. She is also taking ACT prep courses and doing review work for that. Last year, our head travel coach wanted the girls to go 3/4 days per week in fall and play fall ball, while half of our team was doing what I just listed-we lost our all-League SS and an outstanding OF because their parents decided grades were more important than travel softball. Frankly, I agreed w/them. Our head coach took the approach that since his HS team stunk, DD was a freshman not playing a sport, and didn't practice softball, then all of us would make up for his DD's lost time. Those of us whose kids were already in honors classes, a fall sport, and doing HS "voluntary" off-season practices, thought this was a TAD much...Sometimes the rules are there to actually protect the kids from overzealous parents and coaches.....No child should be forced to go from 6:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m., with school and sports, and then start homework til 1 or 2 a.m., and then start it all over again. They weren't allowed to do that to us in the Marines...well, sometimes, but that's a different story

 

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LCTigerdad:

Well said. Many players will substantially fund their college education by a COMBINATION of academic and athletic scholarships. Taking AP courses and preparing for the ACT's or SAT's are key to the academic part. Can't imagine requiring 4 days a week for fall travel ball.

We advertised that we might have one practice a week plus some weekend tournaments, but we've since pretty much decided that we will either practice on a weekend day or play a tournament on the weekend. And we've made it clear to our families that if a player can't make a tournament, there won't be ramifications for that player's position on our team.

I can tell you that the best thing our children did was to take the weekend course offered at our high school in preparation for the SAT's. We ended up with a National Merit Finalist and a National Merit Commended Scholar.

 

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CGS: thank you for your gracious reply. I was hoping I wasn't alone in this thought process..My rule peeve is the "4 per team" from a school-you go to some of these big tourns. and see 5 or 8 from same huge school in Cali or Alabama, these kids get a lot more team time than our girls do. P.S. if you have any "slightly used" test prep stuff, send it up....And other peeve is scheduling tournaments on the weekend of the ACT...

 

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Minnesota's HS governance MSHSL allows baseball and softball an exemption due to the short season (due to weather) that allows them to practice with their travel teams during the High School season without penalty. In practice the top travel clubs here give their players that 8 weeks off and schedule kids for individual work(pitching lessons, hitting lessons, etc)but rarely more than 2 or 3 "team" practices during that time and sometimes none.

From the sound of it, there is nothing stopping you in Ohio from continuing individual instruction/practice during the High School season, so I'm not sure why asking them to take 8 weeks off from team practice is such a big deal. IMO let them be kids and play with their friends for 8 weeks. California has at least as strict of restrictions as Ohio and it's not holding them back. Iowa puts HS ball in the middle of summer effectively eliminating travel ball for ages 14 and up. Be careful about pushing OHSAA into reviewing softball, they might decide to go in that direction instead of what your looking for .

FWIW I've heard Iowa is reviewing the season for softball now and may move it back into the school year.

 

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... California has at least as strict of restrictions as Ohio...

California is not nearly as restrictive as Ohio. Our governing body, CIF, allows players to practice with their travel teams during the 3-1/2 month HS season - they're just not allowed to play contests (games). CIF also doesn't limit the number of players from a HS playing together on a travel team. I saw some other differences when I looked through the OHSAA rules.

Our Southern Section used to have a rule that kept HS coaches from coaching their players during the HS offseason, but that was removed a couple years ago.

 

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I'm sure it's just me, But seems so cool that you can get a national perspective on fastpitch topics here on the OFC. Aahh the wonders of modern media and all those little tubes that connect us to everywhere.