Weird Rule Question

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Runners on base. Batter hits the ball up the middle, 2nd baseman takes her glove off and throws it at the ball to stop the ball, and then throws the batter-runner out at 1st.

What is the ruling?
 
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Out? There's no rule against throwing your glove to stop a ball, is there? :-?
 
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Yes there is i will look it up, i hope they didnt call her out.
 
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RULE 8 section 5 (F)

When a fielder intentionally contacts or catches a fair batted, a thrown, or a pitched ball with any part of the uniform or equiptment that is detached from its proper place.

EFFECT: The batter and runners are entitled to:
1. three bases from the time of the pitch if a batted ball,

there are 6 other sub sections but i think that covers it
 
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OK I'll bite. Did this really happen in a game? If it did I am curious to the age division. ;D
But I say legal.
 
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Didn't really happen. ?An umpire was quizzing my husband to see if he knew. ?The umpire had seen it happen in a college baseball game years ago.

Tribefan24 is correct. Automatic triple!

The umpire also stated that if it happens in the outfield then it is at the umpire's discretion to award a triple or a homerun.
 
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I had it happen in a JV baseball game this year. My leadoff batter hit a ball down the leftfield line and the leftfielder dove, missed, and threw his glove. My guy ended up with an inside the park homerun, but after the inning, I checked with the ump, and he said that if he had been thrown out at home, he would have awarded him third, as if it were an obstruction call.
 
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Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that he said it would be a delayed dead ball situation as well. ?Which I think goes along with what Coach Tamanini is saying
 
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same rule same section
6. if the illegal catch or touch is made on a fair hit ball which, in the judgement of the umpire, would have cleared the outfield fence in flight the batter-runner shall be awarded a four base award.

The key is if the umpire feels it would have cleared the fence.

Hey and dont yell at me if the puncuation isnt right call ASA that is the way it is printed. ;D
 
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Coach Tamanini said:
I had it happen in a JV baseball game this year. ?My leadoff batter hit a ball down the leftfield line and the leftfielder dove, missed, and threw his glove. ?My guy ended up with an inside the park homerun, but after the inning, I checked with the ump, and he said that if he had been thrown out at home, he would have awarded him third, as if it were an obstruction call.

Hmmm...are you sure that's what he told you? Just like an obstruction call?

Yes, it is, but the way he described it is NOT how an obstruction call would work! Same as an obstruction call, the runner is "protected" to a particular base. In this case, it is third base. If the runner overruns that base, he is no longer protected and is liable to be put out.

If the batter/runner is put out anywhere between home and third, then is is like an obstruction call. The batter/runner would still be awrded third base at the end of the play. But on this one, you have a batter who just hit a triple, then was out at home.

The title of this thread is appropriate because this is a weird rule. It takes up almost half a page of the rule book, but it might actually happen once every thousand games!

There are some basic points:

- Doesn't need to be a glove thrown at the ball. It could be a hat, a shoe or a catcher's mask. The same rule covers a ball contacted by any piece of detatched equipment.

- The glove has to actually contact the ball. If the fielder throws her glove and MISSES the ball, there is no penalty or base award.

- In the case of a batted ball, the conatct must be made with a FAIR batted ball. If the fielder knocks down the ball over foul ground, it is simply a foul ball.

- The three base award applies ONLY when the illegal contact is made with a BATTED ball.

- On a THROWN ball, the award is two bases.

- On a PITCH, the award is one base.

- A glove can come off the fielder's hand BY ACCIDENT and contact the ball. If, in the umpire's judgement, the fielder did not purposely throw her glove at the ball, there is no penalty or award.

All that should cover just about any "thrown glove" call you will see during your daughter's entire playing career! ?:)
 
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IT HAPPENED IN THE COLLEGE REGINAL GAME (BASEBALL) FRESNO STATE@ARIZONA , MITT DIDNT HIT THE BALL , NO CALL BY THE UMPS !
 
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PANTHER85 said:
IT HAPPENED IN THE COLLEGE REGINAL GAME (BASEBALL) FRESNO STATE@ARIZONA , MITT DIDNT HIT THE BALL , NO CALL BY THE UMPS !
As long as there is no contact, then no call....


BTW - Please refrain from using all caps, it implies shouting and tends to annoy people over time.
 
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