What good is OHSAA

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What good do you think ohsaa does for your child.
What are the bad things?

How long do you think they will last with pay for play prices going thru the roof?
 
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I think they will last as long as there are sanctioned High School Athletics. It doesn't matter if it's pay to play or not. The OHSAA does attempt to create and equal playing field and to set and administer rules. With all that goes on today, what would it be like without a governing body? As for the bad things I think like any other large organization they get grounded by so much paperwork and verbiage in the rules they make. It seems like many times the rules could be made much easier to read and understand.
 
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OHSAA will be around long after many of us are dead and gone!!
 
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I think 10 years or so from now there will be so few if any schools offering sports that OHSAA will be gone.
 
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I think 10 years or so from now there will be so few if any schools offering sports that OHSAA will be gone.

I agree 100% schools will be forced to go to club sports just becouse of the economics.There wont be enough money for ohsaa.They are more about money than anything.When pay per play gets to high to play for normal kids to participate the money will go away .So will ohsaa.
 
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It seems like many times the rules could be made much easier to read and understand.

Amen
 
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saying OHSAA going away is like us saying we will be flying around like the Jetsons... people keep wishing it but "it ain't goin to be happin ya' ".

IF people hate OHSAA rules so bad they should rally around making change... pull efforts together and present solid arguments, systemic changes, and then maybe just maybe OHSAA will begin to listen. Anyone on OFC got some inside track to the content of the board meeting discussions, the onese they don't post or write down? We all blast on them (including me) but sitting back and watching and slammin' has really done some good thus far:cool: :rolleyes:
 
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Softball is probably the sport that gets irritated by OHSAA the most. High school sports in general benefit greatly from the efforts made by OHSAA. It's people like us, who have a high percentage of our HS athletes who also play on Club teams, that feel like OHSAA is overbearing.

Sports with little interest in club teams (football, track, tennis, wrestling, etc...) probably don't mind Big Brother at all.
 
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I agree 100% schools will be forced to go to club sports just becouse of the economics.There wont be enough money for ohsaa.They are more about money than anything.When pay per play gets to high to play for normal kids to participate the money will go away .So will ohsaa.

Don't see this happening with football. Like it or not football is the sport that anchors everything else.
 
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Don't see this happening with football. Like it or not football is the sport that anchors everything else.

Just the opposite, football will lead the way. When schools start dropping sports football will be the first to go club team. It takes $$ donations to put on a club team and football fans will pony up the big bucks first. Look at high schools that got the new $100,000 turf fields that were donated by boosters. Know of any other sport that received that kind of money? Wouldn't a $100,000 softball field be nice? Like Mason HS.
 
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The OHSAA has its place in the big picture and I believe many of us would agree that a sanctioning body is needed. The problem is their insistence to “busy” themselves with rules and regulations that are not pertinent to the game. There appears to be an underlying message that parents don’t know how to raise their own children. OHSAA is establishing guidelines that directly effect goals that you may want to pursue. They hide behind the contingent that you don’t HAVE to play school sports. If you don’t like the rules----don’t participate. This attitude oversteps many boundaries and I believe it to be a slap in the face to parents in Ohio.

Let me share my interpretation of “why” the OHSAA was created and “what” their involvement should be.

Back in the day; I envision a representative from a school somewhere having tea with a representative from another school when one bragged about the ability of the kids playing a game during their lunch break. The other responded they felt their students played that same game very well and perhaps a wager of sorts took place for bragging rights of who was the best. Let’s play each other and the winner can keep our school bell for a year. They set up a date and time; the communities heard and came to watch as the first interscholastic competition was played. Afterwards, they shook hands and said we should do this again and rivalries and traditions were born. As time went by, other communities got involved. It was an atmosphere of pride as the student athletes voluntarily represented the school, student body, and the community in competition. The best from each school competed and the community took pride in knowing the players on the teams and appreciated their sacrifice and efforts. This in a nutshell is what school sports were to be about. It wasn’t gym class. It was never a guarantee that everyone would play but in fact an opportunity for communities to put together an all-star squad to compete against neighboring all-star squads for bragging rights.

As time went by and more communities wanted to get in on the action, somebody suggested they establish a board that could put together some basic rules and regulations so all the communities would be on the same page. Over the years, they decided on a single elimination tournament to declare the “best of the Best” and set guidelines and establish a format for everyone to follow. Things were good until somebody on the board decided to overstep some boundaries because their personal beliefs were different from some of the families or the schools that were participating. This board member/members decided that too much fun wasn’t healthy for the kids so restrictions for the length of the season, rules against practicing beyond the season, or regulations against coaches helping mentor their student athletes in the off-season were forced upon everyone. Here’s where the ship began to sink and “why” the OHSAA is being challenged today.

If only the OHSAA would fall back and regulate at the level their forefathers created, everyone would be happy. Let the individual school districts decide what is best for their families and student athletes. Let elected school board members that directly represent the community decide if local coaches should mentor student athletes with any restrictions. Let the people decide if they want their children to only play one sport all year or if they should be required to sit around months on end with nothing to do until the school season begins again. Let individual school districts police things internally and decide on the fate of coaches and players.

Why does the OHSAA believe they should be in a position of power to alter decisions regarding sports in individual households? The only answer I can think of ----because they can. Again, what do they believe is the solution to your turmoil? You don’t have to play.

How grown up is that for a sanctioning body?
 
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Just the opposite, football will lead the way. When schools start dropping sports football will be the first to go club team. It takes $$ donations to put on a club team and football fans will pony up the big bucks first. Look at high schools that got the new $100,000 turf fields that were donated by boosters. Know of any other sport that received that kind of money? Wouldn't a $100,000 softball field be nice? Like Mason HS.

I agree .When good players are left behind (and they will be) becouse of pay per play sooner or later it will go club.Sure as a pimple on a 14 year old.
 
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It seems many think that the OHSAA is making the pay for play rules. What really causes that is poor economic decisions made by School Districts. I see some comments about fields such as Mason's, well if you follow the news you know that district is in serious financial distress. Football is the money maker and the schools that realize that and use that income wisely will be better off for it. It's the same in HS or College. Baseball and Softball are important but they bring in relatively little compared to football. There are many schools in the Southwest area with great facilities, Springboro, Mason, Lakota, to name a few but they have not managed their budgets well and are pay for play. That is the districts fault. Nothing to do with the OHSAA. The OHSAA has been around since 1907 and it may need to change but it isn't going anywhere. What are some of the decisions they have made that are hurting our kids involvement in sports? As for having the Elected people in the area decide things, that would be a disaster and lead to more corruption than there already is. We see it all they time AD's, principals, assistant principals, teachers, and coaches in one scandal after another. See Mason recently about that. More physically responsible school districts will solve the pay for play problem.
 
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If only the OHSAA would fall back and regulate at the level their forefathers created, everyone would be happy. Let the individual school districts decide what is best for their families and student athletes. Let elected school board members that directly represent the community decide if local coaches should mentor student athletes with any restrictions. Let the people decide if they want their children to only play one sport all year or if they should be required to sit around months on end with nothing to do until the school season begins again. Let individual school districts police things internally and decide on the fate of coaches and players.

Why does the OHSAA believe they should be in a position of power to alter decisions regarding sports in individual households? The only answer I can think of ----because they can. Again, what do they believe is the solution to your turmoil? You don?t have to play.

That first paragraph says it all. And to answer the question in the second paragraph, I think it's not really the OHSAA commissioners, it is school administrators who give them that power. It is much easier for school administrators to not have to worry about having to make all those decisions and to use the central administrative body of the OHSAA to deflect all of their responsibilities onto. If their Ph.D's in education are worth anything, then they should have the ability to at least police their own athletic departments.
 
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Just the opposite, football will lead the way. When schools start dropping sports football will be the first to go club team. It takes $$ donations to put on a club team and football fans will pony up the big bucks first. Look at high schools that got the new $100,000 turf fields that were donated by boosters. Know of any other sport that received that kind of money? Wouldn't a $100,000 softball field be nice? Like Mason HS.

I disagree. The first to go will be the sports which have no chance of re-couping their costs; i.e. golf, cross country, tennis.

Our school cut golf for the 2010-11 school year as a cost cutting measure despite having a girls team for the first time in 2009. There is no way football or basketball get cut when they can get $6 a pop at the gate.
 
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Could ohsaa survive if the only sport left was football.?If the rest went to club?
No not without the money from other sports (to be sanctioned schools must pay)
 
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Just the opposite, football will lead the way. When schools start dropping sports football will be the first to go club team. It takes $$ donations to put on a club team and football fans will pony up the big bucks first. Look at high schools that got the new $100,000 turf fields that were donated by boosters. Know of any other sport that received that kind of money? Wouldn't a $100,000 softball field be nice? Like Mason HS.

With all due respect I think you're dreaming.
 
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In some people's minds, OHSAA is the blame for everything in high school sports ... kind of like some people think OBAMA is the blame for everything wrong in our country! OHSAA will hopefully figure out how to do some things better, but I don't believe OHSAA or high school sports are going away in most of our lifetimes. Both have been around some time, and both serve a purpose, and if our kids are going to continue to enjoy high school sports (which I think most who play do), then we as parents needs to figure out ways to "get along" with OHSAA. Just my humble opinion ...
 
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I think what some people in travel ball fail to realize is that organizations like OHSAA protect the kids rights to play summer ball where they want. We've had HS coaches here that have threatened kids as young as 11 that if they don't play summer with their community team (as opposed to a club team) they will never see the field for their HS Varsity team. That's against our MSHSL rules and because of that those incidents are rare and usually end with a coach getting fired.
 
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