great thread, just noticed it! as Director of Magic, and coach for Maumee thunder, i'd love to have people tell us why they might not want to come back, this would be good info to improve what we are doing. Please tell us in private emails, we don't want "flame wars" on OFC! :-] That said, our coaches tell me the past 3 years, they have lost hardly any kids they wanted back with Magic, which I think is a good thing that people are happy with the organization, and more likely the coach.