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Yeah - that friendship and sponsorship puts the coach in a bad place. Not an easy position!

I wish you the best on this tightrope Coach! I feel that open communication is still the key - but with us parents sometimes we only hear what we want to hear and see what we want to see.
 
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Yeah - that friendship and sponsorship puts the coach in a bad place. Not an easy position!

I wish you the best on this tightrope Coach! I feel that open communication is still the key - but with us parents sometimes we only hear what we want to hear and see what we want to see.
Thats why I'm shocked that spme people here have called me self centered or with an ego trip. This conflict is effecting a friendship and could cost my team $7000 a year.
 
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Ahhhhhh.. She would be my ss, pitcher, lead off-- whatever they want;&
 
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Actually if he needs a good friend tell him to pm me....:yahoo::lmao:

seriously, I don't envy your situation. You do have lot to lose because your situation is unique. Good luck Coach.
I would still let young ladies play other sports but they need to understand they will sit if other players are better on Sundays.
 
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Just my view: In the past as a coach, in season sports came first with the understanding that come spring, softball is #1. It worked well, and players only missed once in a great while. This year we have practice 3 times a month. One in NE Ohio, one in Central Ohio, and one further South with the understanding that Central Ohio should not be missed, and you make one of the other 2 that is close to you. Playing other sports is understood, and so far, the least amount of players we've had at a practice is 10. Even the families that have to drive 2.5 hours have made the trip for both of the "out of range" practice. I guess what I'm getting at is, if they are committed, and want to improve, they will find a way to get there. Just don't force it
 
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Recalling my 10U days, me as the parent, and provider of transportation, decided if my DD was going to practice or not. Seems like some are criticizing the player for not being at practice, when it is solely the parents' responsibility to decide. How many 10U's can drive themselves to a practice?
 
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As a parent, i wouldnt let a coach determine what my daughter could do at 10u, and as a matter of fact at second year 16u i still wont let a coach determine what she can and cannot do. I am the parent, they are a coach for one particular sport and do not govern her everyday life.

We have fit well with previous coaches as there requirement was " play the sport in season and make what you can".

Even at 15years old she has no idea what her plans are athletically post high school. She plays basketball and fastpitch for high school and travel teams for both sports. She is being athletic 50 weekends a year and after a while it takes it's toll....Everyone needs a break some time.

As for next season and being competetive, her current team finished 36-6 last year or something close to that......they will not practice as a team until school ball is over in may or so......most of the team plays multiple sports and im sure they will be very competetive next year.........You should also try to shut it down for 2 months or so over true winter season and see how they respond,...EVERYONE needs to be rejuvinated with a shut down, even coaches...
 
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Recalling my 10U days, me as the parent, and provider of transportation, decided if my DD was going to practice or not. Seems like some are criticizing the player for not being at practice, when it is solely the parents' responsibility to decide. How many 10U's can drive themselves to a practice?
And what recourse do you have on a parent? This is the way it is in any sport, kids help your parents get to the games early and get to practice, because at the end of the day the only one that suffers is the kid not the parents. What about 12u, 14u, 16u? They cant drive, but it was made clear at that age the level of commitment is higher well the kids still can't drive so now what? Back to square 1 because at 10u you didnt put an end to it. Ive coached for many years and go through it in any sport. Its not fair to the kids so be a good parent and dont over book them and over extend them. If you play a bunch of sports dont sign up for a team that wants kids to attend practice year round. There is being flexible and then there is being a door mat at the other teamates expense. It gets real old to the girl that cracks a triple and is stranded on 3rd because the next 3 girls dont even hit because they didnt put in the work to get better.
 
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Wow - am I glad my DD didn't get into travel ball until 12u! The 10u school & rec we were involved with was all about fun for the girls - nothing more. I used to laugh after we first got into travel ball because rec & school ball was referred to as the "ice cream league" - you play a game, then win or lose, you go get ice cream! But in hindsight, what could be more fun for the kids?? Given the chance to do it all again, I wouldn't change a thing. DD was also a pre-college multi-sport athlete, and that is a prized quality in the eyes of college coaches.

Coach, I think your head is in the right place in wanting to have the best team possible, and develop the girls into quality ball players. But I think you need to step back and look at the bigger picture. Softball is just one small part of most kid's lives, especially at age 10. The comments about teaching a love for the game are spot on. Most times that process is a very s l o w one. It isn't always about being the "best" at that age - especially with girls. Having raised a daughter and watching her play sports from a little tyke up through college, the social aspects of the game cannot be ignored. There is a HUGE difference between how boys (us guys) and girls view sports and their function/purpose. Guys roll their eyes, but believe me - there is typically a TON of drama on most college softball teams. That's not always a bad thing, just different. Girls interact differently and respect each other for different reasons than guys do.

With that all being said, this has NOTHING to do with a competitive attitude, or a desire to "be the best you can be". Work ethic is NOT gender specific! Either you want it, or you don't. The destination is the same, but the trip is a little different.

Teams that my DD were on always had off-season practices OPTIONAL. The focus was on expected individual development, NOT how many off-season practices you make (or miss). It is VERY difficult to force parents to buy in to something when they have no concept of the outcome. First generation 10u parents are NOT going to realize the work it takes to be a competitive top level travel team. Heck, it took us a couple years to figure it out! In the fall, set high expectations for goals which are outcome based, and let your players decide how to achieve those goals. Give them opportunities (which you are obviously doing), but don't try to force the issue. Then, come springtime, play the BEST 9. Eventually, the slackers will take the hint, and be off to perceived greener pastures.
 
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Wow - am I glad my DD didn't get into travel ball until 12u! The 10u school & rec we were involved with was all about fun for the girls - nothing more. I used to laugh after we first got into travel ball because rec & school ball was referred to as the "ice cream league" - you play a game, then win or lose, you go get ice cream! But in hindsight, what could be more fun for the kids?? Given the chance to do it all again, I wouldn't change a thing. DD was also a pre-college multi-sport athlete, and that is a prized quality in the eyes of college coaches.

Coach, I think your head is in the right place in wanting to have the best team possible, and develop the girls into quality ball players. But I think you need to step back and look at the bigger picture. Softball is just one small part of most kid's lives, especially at age 10. The comments about teaching a love for the game are spot on. Most times that process is a very s l o w one. It isn't always about being the "best" at that age - especially with girls. Having raised a daughter and watching her play sports from a little tyke up through college, the social aspects of the game cannot be ignored. There is a HUGE difference between how boys (us guys) and girls view sports and their function/purpose. Guys roll their eyes, but believe me - there is typically a TON of drama on most college softball teams. That's not always a bad thing, just different. Girls interact differently and respect each other for different reasons than guys do.

With that all being said, this has NOTHING to do with a competitive attitude, or a desire to "be the best you can be". Work ethic is NOT gender specific! Either you want it, or you don't. The destination is the same, but the trip is a little different.

Teams that my DD were on always had off-season practices OPTIONAL. The focus was on expected individual development, NOT how many off-season practices you make (or miss). It is VERY difficult to force parents to buy in to something when they have no concept of the outcome. First generation 10u parents are NOT going to realize the work it takes to be a competitive top level travel team. Heck, it took us a couple years to figure it out! In the fall, set high expectations for goals which are outcome based, and let your players decide how to achieve those goals. Give them opportunities (which you are obviously doing), but don't try to force the issue. Then, come springtime, play the BEST 9. Eventually, the slackers will take the hint, and be off to perceived greener pastures.
Agreed and Ive never forced anyone to do anything. I only told them if they miss 3 mnths of indoor work they will be 3 mnths behind others and with competition for spots you could lose your position to another player. In hind sight I should not of said anything just let them figure it out in spring that their DD is on the bottom of the barrel after missing 24 hours of winter practice.
 
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As a parent, i wouldnt let a coach determine what my daughter could do at 10u, and as a matter of fact at second year 16u i still wont let a coach determine what she can and cannot do. I am the parent, they are a coach for one particular sport and do not govern her everyday life.

We have fit well with previous coaches as there requirement was " play the sport in season and make what you can".

Even at 15years old she has no idea what her plans are athletically post high school. She plays basketball and fastpitch for high school and travel teams for both sports. She is being athletic 50 weekends a year and after a while it takes it's toll....Everyone needs a break some time.

As for next season and being competetive, her current team finished 36-6 last year or something close to that......they will not practice as a team until school ball is over in may or so......most of the team plays multiple sports and im sure they will be very competetive next year.........You should also try to shut it down for 2 months or so over true winter season and see how they respond,...EVERYONE needs to be rejuvinated with a shut down, even coaches...
36-6??? They hardly even played a season. We played over 60 games last year at 10. Other 16u teams I know play over 100 games. Why did they play so little amount of softball? Just curious.
 
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From the book The joy of coaching youth sports.


Spring. It’s that time of the year when parents sign their children up for multiple team sports. Basketball, baseball, ******** and the ****** empire all vie for the attention of youth sports participants and their parents.

This bounty of opportunity can cause several problems for the athlete and sports parent. As I described in an older post, one such problem occurs when a parent “over-books” his or her child’s activities. With too many scheduled activities, the child inevitably misses numerous practices and games.

For coaches, it’s often a frustrating time. Many of us who coach do so for the rewards that come from developing young players and a team throughout the course of a season. Developing a child’s understanding of team play, and how to integrate his or her individual abilities together into a larger team experience, is one of the satisfying challenges that draw us to coaching.

But how can a coach develop a team when players regularly miss practice and games due to other commitments? The short answer is one cannot.

If you’re lucky, you coach a team that sits atop others. Possibly you coach a “select” team, one in which parents have invested significant sums of money for their child to participate. You may coach a team that needs to cut players to reach a manageable sized squad. Or maybe your team is simply the only game in town. In other words, you are a coach who has explicit power. You are in the enviable position of dictating to your players that they attend practices—or else.

[h=3]The quandary youth coaches face[/h]But in the mainstream of youth sports, most coaches don’t enjoy this level of control. At the bottom of the food chain are the coaches in a community’s developmental sports programs. These coaches typically have only one or two practices per week to prepare for their weekly game. The leagues in which they coach emphasize fun, instruction and equal playing time. Establishing an attendance policy and enforcing it is atypical.

A coach in these programs must instead resort to tactics of persuasion, possibly coupled with minor punitive measures such as not starting a player who misses practice or reducing a player’s minutes in a game. This coach must try to convince each child (or parent) that attending practice is important—both in developing the child’s ability to its fullest and to fulfill the inherent responsibility and obligation each player has to his or her team.

Other approaches a coach may use to address attendance issues include talking with individual parents to determine if they can help. Possibly splitting attendance equally between two competing activities may be an acceptable solution. Also, in certain instances a coach may be able to better match practice times to his or her players’ availability. This is more likely at the beginning of a season before the practice schedules are set.

Most importantly, practices must include a large dose of fun, provide players with instruction they find meaningful, and generate a high level of positive energy. Successful coaches in these programs often pull their players toward team goals through their own personal style of leadership. Ideally, players want to come to practice!

[h=3]Focus on what you control[/h]Sometimes the dice simply land wrong for a volunteer youth coach. Scheduling conflicts exist and key players on your team regularly miss practice and games.

So what can you do?

I would suggest that you reset your team expectations and focus more on teaching the individuals who do attend practices. Concentrate on improving each child’s individual skills, providing more instruction and practice repetitions. This is also an opportunity for you to dedicate more time to your beginning players. Since there is less likelihood that these children are involved in competing athletic activities, they will more consistently attend practices. Parents of these children may also realize and appreciate that their child is receiving semi-private training at little or no cost.

From a competitive perspective, your beginners are usually your team’s weak link. But these young players may dramatically improve with added instruction and opportunity, leading to more team success as the season progresses. And should your better players begin to show up toward the end of the season (possibly for a season-ending tournament), your team will be stronger for your efforts teaching the younger beginners.

As I’ve written elsewhere, one of the greatest rewards for a youth coach is to witness the development of a young player’s ability and self-esteem under your tutelage. If you walk away from a season knowing you’ve helped even one child on your team, you have succeeded.


The fight to be competitive and be ok with the small success is a battle I'll have to fight it appears!
 
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36-6??? They hardly even played a season. We played over 60 games last year at 10. Other 16u teams I know play over 100 games. Why did they play so little amount of softball? Just curious.

As a college senior I can say this is exactly what college coaches DON'T want. When I was in travel, my team never played over 50 games in a summer and we never played fall ball. We all had the desire to play big-time college ball. We played about 5-7 tournaments through the summer, most out west, and trained in the off-season. I would say 10 of the 14 on my team went on to play D1 with 3 of us in the SEC, 2 in PAC-12 and the rest in Mid-major. Had we played over a 100 games, we would have never had time to train the way we did and would have never played at the level we are playing. A 36-6 record??......thats not to shabby...... You sound like a newer coach, let the kids be kids coach, and take the advice from some of the "been there done that" posters. Sammys advice is always spot on...
 
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As a college senior I can say this is exactly what college coaches DON'T want. When I was in travel, my team never played over 50 games in a summer and we never played fall ball. We all had the desire to play big-time college ball. We played about 5-7 tournaments through the summer, most out west, and trained in the off-season. I would say 10 of the 14 on my team went on to play D1 with 3 of us in the SEC, 2 in PAC-12 and the rest in Mid-major. Had we played over a 100 games, we would have never had time to train the way we did and would have never played at the level we are playing. A 36-6 record??......thats not to shabby...... You sound like a newer coach, let the kids be kids coach, and take the advice from some of the "been there done that" posters. Sammys advice is always spot on...
Far from new, Thanks for the advice though.
 
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There have been a lot of studies about overuse injuries due to sport specialization, especially at younger ages. I suggest you do a google search and educate yourself. I'll paste one article but I know that there are many. Year round softball at 10U is not a good idea.

Overuse Injuries

And by the way, I played division one college hockey AND division one college tennis. Growing up when it was hockey season I played hockey and when it was tennis season I played tennis. It would have killed me to have "specialized" at the age of 10. I would mention that I was also an all conference high school soKKer player, but that would be bragging.
 
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Coach - I feel your pain, if it is only through the eyes of a parent. I used to get SO frustrated, especially high school, at the obvious lack of work ethic from several kids - ESPECIALLY HITTING. I wish I had a penny for every kid stranded on base because of the "automatic out". This just drove me crazy! It also happened in travel ball, and I'm not just talking about a hitting slump - it was just lack of work. But guess what? I finally accepted that as just part of the game (unfortunately) as it was obviously beyond my control. And sometimes, making kids better is beyond a coaches control. The coach can impose bench time, in-your-face time, etc., but no one can make that player "get better" unless SHE (and her parents) make the effort. As a coach, all you can do is provide the environment and offer to share your wisdom. The rest is up to the player and her parents.

The game needs dedicated quality coaches who are willing to sacrifice their time and money to see a few kids reach their dreams. I'll never forget all the coaches who helped my daughter along her path to playing college ball, which allowed her to become a teacher. Our family is eternally grateful to those coaches for giving my daughter the opportunity of a lifetime.

You need to forget the "small stuff" and realize that you will eventually have parents just like me that cannot thank you enough for keeping the faith, and providing those same opportunities for the dedicated girls you are now coaching. They will grow up to be young ladies sooner than you think.
 

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