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This popped up out of our Scorekeeping thread.
How does a coach/player make an appeal to the umpire? Let's not confuse this with being upset with a "wrong" call (we all know how to protest that).
Bretman, please jump in and give us info. As always, the intent is to educate coaches and players. I have seen numerous times when an appeal is screwed up and coaches get upset. Or I have seen where appeals could have been made but nothing was done.
If coaches and players know what to appeal, when to appeal, and how to appeal it, then things will go much smoother in a game and people won't get upset (except for the team that gets a player called out on the appeal).
This is what I have learned. Hopefully it is not wrong, but I have been know to forget things from time to time. If I am, please correct.
Let's take the Batting out of order (BOO). If it is discovered and if the coach waits until the wrong batter reaches base, then the coach must bring it to the attention of the umpire before the next pitch (Legal or illegal).
How about Tag-ups or leaving early on the caught fly balls? From what I understand, there are several ways to get the out before play is dead. A player can tag the base in which the runner left early from. Or a player can tag the offending runner, if she hasn't retreated to the original base yet. But remember, the ball is still live and any other runners will be active to try for another base if possible.
If you wait until play is dead, then before the next pitch (legal or illegal), a player or coach can ask the umpire for an appeal that a runner left before the catch (Must specify which runner). I prefer this because any other runners cannot advance since play is dead.
Here is one that I see from time to time. A runner advances from 3rd base to home. She crosses the plate but the umpire does not give the "safe" signal. She did not touch the base. The runner continues into the dugout and the defensive continues with the game. The defense did not notice that the runner did not touch Home or they did not notice that the umpire did not give the safe sign. Or a runner misses a base while running during a play. The appeal must be made prior to the next pitch (legal or illegal) by a coach or player to the umpire (I am starting to see a trend here).
Bretman, here are some questions.
1. Which umpire does a coach or player make the appeal to?
2. Does the umpire always have to give the "safe" signal when a player crosses/reaches a base, even without a play being made?
Help us.....we really do want to be better.
We can make this the OFC Winter Rules/Coaching On-Line Seminar
How does a coach/player make an appeal to the umpire? Let's not confuse this with being upset with a "wrong" call (we all know how to protest that).
Bretman, please jump in and give us info. As always, the intent is to educate coaches and players. I have seen numerous times when an appeal is screwed up and coaches get upset. Or I have seen where appeals could have been made but nothing was done.
If coaches and players know what to appeal, when to appeal, and how to appeal it, then things will go much smoother in a game and people won't get upset (except for the team that gets a player called out on the appeal).
This is what I have learned. Hopefully it is not wrong, but I have been know to forget things from time to time. If I am, please correct.
Let's take the Batting out of order (BOO). If it is discovered and if the coach waits until the wrong batter reaches base, then the coach must bring it to the attention of the umpire before the next pitch (Legal or illegal).
How about Tag-ups or leaving early on the caught fly balls? From what I understand, there are several ways to get the out before play is dead. A player can tag the base in which the runner left early from. Or a player can tag the offending runner, if she hasn't retreated to the original base yet. But remember, the ball is still live and any other runners will be active to try for another base if possible.
If you wait until play is dead, then before the next pitch (legal or illegal), a player or coach can ask the umpire for an appeal that a runner left before the catch (Must specify which runner). I prefer this because any other runners cannot advance since play is dead.
Here is one that I see from time to time. A runner advances from 3rd base to home. She crosses the plate but the umpire does not give the "safe" signal. She did not touch the base. The runner continues into the dugout and the defensive continues with the game. The defense did not notice that the runner did not touch Home or they did not notice that the umpire did not give the safe sign. Or a runner misses a base while running during a play. The appeal must be made prior to the next pitch (legal or illegal) by a coach or player to the umpire (I am starting to see a trend here).
Bretman, here are some questions.
1. Which umpire does a coach or player make the appeal to?
2. Does the umpire always have to give the "safe" signal when a player crosses/reaches a base, even without a play being made?
Help us.....we really do want to be better.
We can make this the OFC Winter Rules/Coaching On-Line Seminar